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I know your exactly right Louey.
Some of these rebuilders just throw them to gether with out ever measureing anything, or checking to even see if they are kicking out right. I know I have got them where the would not spin or even kick out like they were supposed too. I have also got the the wrong starters thats why I like to buy them and take the core back later so I can look them over real good to make sure that they are a perfect match.
Kurt

A picture sure would help. My starter had shims supplyed with it when I purchased it and Different hole patterns on the mounting plate. This allowed to adjust the mesh and travel of the starter gear.

But it's a chebbie ???

Originally Posted by Louey

Your going a little to deep on this aren't you?

Your throwing a lot of if's in there. Like what if the sun is shining, or maybe if it was raining, or freezing out, would this make a difference.
The main point is, check the clearance between the flywheel and starter. How far does the engagement go between the two pieces ? That is what puts it at the right spot on the flywheel, ring gear teeth.

if it's bent / twisted / damaged it may prevent proper placement of the starter.

If that's the case, you haven't done the checks properly, and a new one is required. I've had them chew the gear teeth up, when everything was supposed to be right. The starter engagement depth was usually the problem. That's why the get half the teeth chewed off, in 4 places.

I don't think so. I wasn't the one saying the plate don't matter. It absolutely does! All I was trying to say was check the plate for damage as it sets the distance away from the crank. And I also agreed with you on verifying starter drive tooth engagement. That was it! I also agree that he should verify the tooth count on the flywheel and make sure he's gotten the correct starter for that flywheel he's using.

And I never ever mentioned the weather!

what year is the 390??? dose the bellhousing have a large hump cast into the passangers side of the bellhousing??? where the starter bolts to ??? some of the early fe had y-block type starters on them which engaged the flywheel from the back side.65 and up starters are different.when you replaced the ring gear was it installed from the clutch side or the engine side of the flywheel????

Hey again. Hope you all had a great 4th. What I found was that while my truck was being stored(while I was on deployment) someone was tinkering with it for me. They claimed to put in a new throwout bearing(centerforce) which was still in the box(found it) and the engine plate is not installed. I looked at the starter to find it binding(frozen) against the flywheel gear. The edge of the tooth on the starter is touching the tooth on the flywheel. Bum deal! I do know the block is a 66. Could there be a different starter for that year compared to the 76 I thought it was? Also is there a such thing as different tooth patters-meaning a finer area for how they are cut. Like having two 168? tooth flywheels,but one is cut different? Thanks for any help.

I don't recall the exact number on the flywheel-believe it's 164-or 168. The starter was matched to the flywheel teeth wise. Unfortunately not sure about whether the ring gear was pressed on from the back or front. It appears to be in the exact center of the flywheel. Apparently the starter seems to be sliding out far enough seeing how its frozen against the tooth on the flywheel. I'll get to tearing it apart in a month or so-have a ton of stuff to do : ( I will get an engine plate and really try to reference the starter/flywheel. See about getting it from ford or something. I do not want to be doing this again soon lol. Thanks again for all the info. I appreciate it and will keep ya posted.

Yes there are differant flywhell with differant amonts of teeth.
Call Summit's tech Department they could tell you.

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