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    Is the only difference in a roller cam 302 block and a non-roller block the cam that's installed? in other words are the cams interchangeable between the two and what really makes it a roller or non-roller is the cam that's in it?
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    Is the only difference in a roller cam 302 block and a non-roller block the cam that's installed?
    The short answer is no. A roller cam takes roller lifters and a mechanism to keep the roller lifters from rotating in the bores.
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    But any motor can be made roller right? With the right cam, lifers, rockers, etc.??

    At what point is a must? Above a certain RPM range?

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    that's what I was getting at... if i'm going to use a new cam, lifters, heads, & valve train, are the blocks interchangeable? For my purpose, i can go with forged or the hyper pistons so i'm ignoring that difference for the moment.
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    I'm not totally sure either, to be honest. I'll be keeping an eye out for the answer too!
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    rf....

    Dont quote me but i beleive most blocks are interchangable. One of the things a roller block needs is a housing or recess to slide the lifter plates into. which can be machined

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    The block will have to be machined. But it is not that big a deal.

    I personally would go with a roller cam and the forged pistons.

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    i've never had any machine work done to put roller lifters in old blocks before .
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    Me either, Denny.
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    You will have to run a small base circle cam

    to which you will have to drill and tap the block (Machine shop)

    Or run the crane reto-fit lifters ($400.)

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    OK, i'm confused now Denny and Mike, lets rephase that question a bit.

    Can you put a late model chev roller cam and lifters into the early 1955 - 1986 1st generation blocks ?

    Awaiting your awnsers with many thanks. Mike (S)
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    "this is a roller cam, dont see where you have to do nothing but put it in."

    Part Number 12-705-8
    __Engine 1955-1998 Chevrolet
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    Grind Number CS 300A-R10
    Description

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Intake Exhaust
    Valve Adjustment 0.02 0.02
    Gross Valve Lift 0.575 0.575
    Duration At 0.015 Tappet Lift 300 300

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Valve Timing At 0.015
    Open Close
    Intake 44 76
    Exhaust 84 36

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    These Specs Are For The Cam Installed At 106 Intake CL
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    Duration At 0.05 255 255
    Lobe Lift 0.3833 0.3833
    Lobe Separation 110

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    Recommended Valve Springs 977-16
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    this is just lifters, but they do talk about "including small base circle and offset applications." must be 1996 up maybe. MIT QUK explane the small base circle if you will.
    i think he is talking about a 302 ford anyway.

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    Re: roller cam vs. non-roller short block

     



    Originally posted by rficalora
    302 block

    key word

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    Re: Re: roller cam vs. non-roller short block

     



    Originally posted by MIT QUK
    key word
    i'm talking chevy. i dont know what everybody else is talking about, so just forget anything i said. southerner made me do it.
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