Thread: Ford 5.0L help

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I found this engine from a guy I know and he is pretty good guy. He's willing to give me this for $700 plus some parts that he could use that I don't need. I want to try and run my Edelbrock 600 carb on it and I'll need an intake. It's going on my '31 Model A Streetrod that I've been working on(before it was a '27 T Sedan ). I'm looking for opinions on what I could do with it without spending too much more money, and what tranny I should look for. I'll tie it into a Chevy 12 bolt rear end cause I already have the brackets welded on. Just don't want to have to buy a blower. Maybe a new cam though.

For sale ; 5.0 L complete engine spec'd for a blower

The engine has about 950 km on it.

Aluminum Trick Flow High Port heads, DSS forged 1.600/4.030/ - 13 cc low compression inline pro series pistons. Custom grind cam from flowtech induction ( part # SC1934-HR112 )
lift 1.6 ratio , intake .5632", exhaust .5664" , lobe seperation 112 degrees. , Aluminum roller rockers 1.6 ratio, powerbond balancer, Ford Explorer upper and lower intake.

I'll try to get more info.

Thanks,
Sean.

If your going with a standard tranny, find a mustang tko or t5...

Actually I should have said I want an auto cause foot room with the channel is pretty scarce.

Wondering about this:

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...QAdIdZ54761481

Sean

I think he said 8.1:1 with 13cc dish pistons. I figured I'd like to spend less than $1000 to make it work but if all I need is an intake that would be great. I thought I might need a new cam as well, it's full roller.

Would shaving the heads or block work??

He just sent me this:

http://www.trickflow.com/partdetail...02&autoview=sku

The pistons are -13 cc DSS pro inline series forged pistons

Here are the specs on the cam

gross valve lift 1.60 ratio , intake .5632" , .5664" exhaust
duration @ .006 " tappet lift 284 intake , 282 exhaust
duration @ .050" tappet lift 228 intake, 232 exhaust
Lobe separation 112 degrees
Recommended intake centerline supercharged 112 degrees under 3300 #
Recommended intake centerline supercharged 110 degrees over 3300 #
Recommended intake centerline naturally aspirated 108 degrees under 3300 #

Specs at 112 degree intake centerline

This camshaft is designed specifically for supercharged engines, normally aspirated will require additional charges ( whatever that means )

Thats the specs , its greek to me. Make sure and ask Ken if the 5.0 L timing cover will work with the older waterpump, also ask him about the flexplate versus flywheel for balance. He should be able to figure out the compression ratio as the pistons are - 13 cc and the combustion chamber is 64 cc

A super charged engine will not work without the super charger ..compression is too low..........when you 5.0 ,do you mean 86-94 roller motor or just a older 302?

8.1 will make a great economy engine but no performer.. cam is way too big for a N/A engine of 8.1 tho.. personally. I would twin turbocharge it, and crank the boost.. if it's set up for supercharging, at 8.1:1 you could run 15 PSI easy, which is good for upwards of 500 hp. 2 Matching Holset HX-35 turbos from Dodge Cummings diesels would be about right...

Get a set of flat top pistons and a different cam....

Originally Posted by Matt167

8.1 will make a great economy engine but no performer.. cam is way too big for a N/A engine of 8.1 tho.. personally. I would twin turbocharge it, and crank the boost.. if it's set up for supercharging, at 8.1:1 you could run 15 PSI easy, which is good for upwards of 500 hp. 2 Matching Holset HX-35 turbos from Dodge Cummings diesels would be about right...

You win the lottery or something???? Got to have a lot more then just the turbos (as you well know) to make the engine work right and live!!!!!

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

You win the lottery or something???? Got to have a lot more then just the turbos (as you well know) to make the engine work right and live!!!!!

I know.. Modded carb, high preassure fuel pump, boost refrenced fuel press regulator with a bypass, then an ignition with boost retard, and an O2 sensor and A/F gauge to make sure it is in tune... but really if the engine was built to support a supercharger.. that's half way there..

Of course, even for my 200 I6, I have $2,500 in the engine itself, the rest is engine fuel system, electrical and piping for the turbo/ intercooler... and also the intercooler and wastegate... $5k for the engine and everything to make it run, $1k for the car itself

Dave your reply sounds the cheapest . So if I get flat top pistons and a new cam I'll have to rebalance the whole thing again right?

Also any recomendations for these and an intake that would work with my Edelbrock performer carb(600).

Yes it's an 86-94 roller motor.

I don't need something crazy, just something that sounds good and has some low down torque. I have a 383 SBC with AFR heads and a bunch of other stuff but I figured I could use that in my '51 Chev Truck and get this motor for less than the cost of the machine work on another. Should I pass on it or do you think I could get this done for an extra $1000.

Thanks for all the input,
Sean

probably less than $1k.. as Dave said, change the pistions and camshaft... not doing math or anything, you should have around 9:1 by running flat tops

Okay I found these now:

4.03 Bore
3.0 stroke
.012 deck height
13 cc dish pistons
64cc combustion chamber
.04 gasket

I think that was 8.1:1 C/R

Not the best way Sean, but I think I would first check to see if you can match the weight of the pistons that are in there..... See how close you can get, then if you're not experienced in balancing pistons have a competent machinist match the weight of the new pistons to the old pistons...This way the bob weight would remain the same and the rest of the reciprocating assembly will remain the same... Don't forget to have the rings you will be running with the new pistons, their weight effects the bob weight, too.

As for an intake, I have had very good results with the Edelbrock Performer RPM on street engines....but I also keep wanting to try a dual plane Weiand, can't remember the name of it right now....

Cam needs 9.5:1 minimum. Heads need another 100 cubic inches of motor.

Thanks a lot Dave, I'll talk to the guy machining my other block and see what he thinks.

Tech, do you think that a new cam and pistons would help, I realize this was set up for a blower but I can get it for such a good deal I'd like to see if I can make it work. It's going into a '31 Model A so I'm sure any power will feel good, and I want to run on pump gas.

Sean