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Dang near qualifies as "the cruise from Hell"! Oh well, stuff happens and you made it home----eventually-----!

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Dang near qualifies as "the cruise from Hell"! Oh well, stuff happens and you made it home----eventually-----!

Cruise from Hell! Yeah! we made it.. eventually.. LOL..

It's funny (now) how much anxitey that crap raises and spoils the mood!

At least I only had to push it a few feet!

Originally Posted by 34_40

No. No aversion to "A".. I was just remembering how crap turns to s_ _t!


I hate it that I got stuck, even for a bit!

Yes, there is a direct correlation between the two and I just couldn't resist the temptation to give you a little bit of both!!!

Yes, it definitely sucks when your shiny new rod gets stuck along side the road.....even if it's a country road where nobody sees it!!! Glad you made it back safely.

Was your "lazy Holley" a new one? does it have a filter? could it be clogged up or is the fuel actually running intermittently? Even if you're going to toss it, I'm just curious why it quit. Enquiring minds wanna know.....but it's not the end of the world if we don't find out....

Originally Posted by randyr

Yes, there is a direct correlation between the two and I just couldn't resist the temptation to give you a little bit of both!!!

Was your "lazy Holley" a new one? does it have a filter? could it be clogged up or is the fuel actually running intermittently? Even if you're going to toss it, I'm just curious why it quit. Enquiring minds wanna know.....but it's not the end of the world if we don't find out....

HMmmm... you and I always have trouble with that same temptation! HAH!

No filter in front. Yes, new.. (relatively speaking) no real time on it. I also run 3 port regulators so I can control fuel feed pressure and the remainder of the fuel returns to the tank. I keep line pressure at 4 psi so I can't say it's been overworked and actual runtime can't be but 15 : 20 hours total. Somewhere over the winter it'll come apart and we'll try and diagnose what happened.

Mike, it sure does sound like a fuel pump motor problem. Our trip to Des Moines in July one of the guys ran strong for two hours before coasting to a stop along the side of I-35, and getting hauled to the hotel parking lot. Thought we fixed it with a new fuse, believing that condensation from the AC had caused the blow, only to have the same thing on the way home. Once it stopped it would not start without "resting" for 1/2 hour, then it would only run for about five minutes. Changed the in-tank pump and it seems to be OK again. With an external Holley, maybe carry a spare?

Is the pump the old style Holley, or one of the new gear rotor pumps?

Originally Posted by rspears

Mike, it sure does sound like a fuel pump motor problem. Our trip to Des Moines in July one of the guys ran strong for two hours before coasting to a stop along the side of I-35, and getting hauled to the hotel parking lot. Thought we fixed it with a new fuse, believing that condensation from the AC had caused the blow, only to have the same thing on the way home. Once it stopped it would not start without "resting" for 1/2 hour, then it would only run for about five minutes. Changed the in-tank pump and it seems to be OK again. With an external Holley, maybe carry a spare?

It surprises me to hear of an internal pump failure. I thought they're big advantage was running so much cooler immersed in the fuel. I've already made up my mind and planned on going back to the mechanical pump.

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Is the pump the old style Holley, or one of the new gear rotor pumps?

Yep, old style. The "funny" thing for me in all this is that I've run this same setup a few times before and never had an issue. Then I get on here and a bunch of folks tell me no way would they run an electric due to the failure rate which shocked me!

Then I go for a simple cruise on one of the last warm days and get stranded by the electric fuel pump.. sheesh!

Originally Posted by 34_40

It surprises me to hear of an internal pump failure. I thought they're big advantage was running so much cooler immersed in the fuel. I've already made up my mind and planned on going back to the mechanical pump.



Yep, old style. The "funny" thing for me in all this is that I've run this same setup a few times before and never had an issue. Then I get on here and a bunch of folks tell me no way would they run an electric due to the failure rate which shocked me!

Then I go for a simple cruise on one of the last warm days and get stranded by the electric fuel pump.. sheesh!

See what happened??? People got you concerned about the pump and jinxed it!!!! I suppose Holley, like so many other companies, has found a way to cheapen up the build cost on their old style pumps in order to keep the price low.... I'd like to try a belt driven pump (like a Hilborn or K&N), only drawback being you'd have to run an electric pump for start up, then switch over to the belt driven pump....???

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

See what happened??? People got you concerned about the pump and jinxed it!!!! I suppose Holley, like so many other companies, has found a way to cheapen up the build cost on their old style pumps in order to keep the price low.... I'd like to try a belt driven pump (like a Hilborn or K&N), only drawback being you'd have to run an electric pump for start up, then switch over to the belt driven pump....???

Yep.. I'm Jinxed!! Belt driven, sounds interesting but a engineering nightmare.?.?

I had a friend back in New Mexico who ran a supercharged big block bow tie in a vette on alcohol. He ran a belt drive pump. Kept a plastic bottle of fuel with him so he could restart it. I got pretty good at dribbling in fuel into the injector hat until the pressure came up! Certainly not a boulevard cruiser but, it made everyones head spin when we showed up at a local cruise night!

Originally Posted by 34_40

Yep.. I'm Jinxed!! Belt driven, sounds interesting but a engineering nightmare.?.?

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I was thinking maybe a pressure switch on the belt driven pump to shut off the electrical pump after the engine is running and generating ___ PSI of fuel pressure???? It would of course require a dual pickup arrangement at the tank... Hadn't really planned out the whole system, but should be able to make it functional and reliable???

Actually, I never minded when my carb was empty after sitting for a while because I could spin the motor over and build up oil pressure and re-fill the carb with gas before starting.

This would "sort of" be your situation.. spin it with the ignition off and get your fuel pressure, then snap on the ignition and light the candles! LOL..

My good friend Mark came by and while we were hanging out he offered to help me lift the hood off. With the 4 pieces it's awkward at best with 2 lifting and darn near impossible alone. After, he snapped this pic with his phone and ran it through some "app" to turn it black & white and then with his finger he added the car color back in.... weird, but a cool pic I thought!

Interesting shot with everything around the car in black and white! IMO the '33's and '34's still make the best looking cars, always have preferred them over the deuces.

It is an interesting look and he did it with his phone... I guess I'll have to agree with you on the best looking cars! LOL

Originally Posted by 34_40

It is an interesting look and he did it with his phone... I guess I'll have to agree with you on the best looking cars! LOL

Yeah, well they're probably getting a lynch mob together to come hunt us down!!!!