Thread: Need help with my 90 Tbird
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09-08-2004 02:20 PM #1
Need help with my 90 Tbird
My other post on this disappeared so here it is again.
My engine is running a high idle after acceleration. If I don't touch the pedal it idles fine. But if I rev the engine it doesn't come back down. The return linkage for the throttle is on the spring is fine I have checked all that. When driving the car will go about 40mph without my foot on the pedal, at stop signs it sounds like I am trying to do a break stand with it.
Is there a vaccuumm that is suppose to bring it back down or something else that might have gone out on it? I only work on carb motors so I am lost on this.
Thanks for any help.1949 Plymouth Club Coupe Still in pieces.
1979 International Scout Travler with SOA, 345 Engine and 727 AT
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09-08-2004 05:22 PM #2
Hey Tim, Let me first say that I don't know my rear from a hole in the ground when it comes to engines. So this probably won't help you a bit ha ha! But, I just went through a very similar issue with my TransAm...pedals not stickin...but the car is revvin and racin down the street doin 35 an accelerating with no help from me whatsoever...I also had issues with stalling and what appeared to be some kind of short (lights flashing etc.) I don't know how it all works together, but turns out I had a bad alternator...once that wuz replaced ...she runs like a dream....You miss 100% of the shots you never take
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09-08-2004 05:26 PM #3
OK, yeah, now that I think about it...I can't believe I actually wrote that post to an experienced engine person LOL...to quote the Grinch "I'm an Idiot....echo echo echo...You're an Idiot...echo echo echo"...Good luck anyway!You miss 100% of the shots you never take
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09-08-2004 06:36 PM #4
OK, assuming that your motor is the plenum-style 5.0, im going to go with this. The idle is mostly controlled by the air intake past the throttle plates. As it seems to increase upon heating, my guess would be that either your plates are sticking due to improper oiling(pcv does a good job at this) or there is something either scoured or caught on your plates. Also, check for vacum leaks on the rear of the plenum. Give more info(motor, turbo?, ect) and we can help more.Right engine, Wrong Wheels
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09-08-2004 07:34 PM #5
3.8 V6 stock engine.
Someone had mentioned to me that there was a motor or something that controls the idle, Does anyone know what this is?
ANd Jerilynne, don't worry about it, If I was that experienced with the FI and EFI engines I wouldn't have asked the question. A carbed motor I can figure my way around and fix, but am lost with this and any help is appreciated.Last edited by joker51; 09-08-2004 at 07:38 PM.
1949 Plymouth Club Coupe Still in pieces.
1979 International Scout Travler with SOA, 345 Engine and 727 AT
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09-08-2004 08:09 PM #6
Originally posted by joker51
3.8 V6 stock engine.
Someone had mentioned to me that there was a motor or something that controls the idle, Does anyone know what this is?
ANd Jerilynne, don't worry about it, If I was that experienced with the FI and EFI engines I wouldn't have asked the question. A carbed motor I can figure my way around and fix, but am lost with this and any help is appreciated.You don't know what you've got til it's gone
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09-08-2004 11:37 PM #7
Not a sticky pedal, I can play with the linkage under the hood and it snaps back just fine. Thats what confuses me so much on this. I was wondering if there is an idle motor or sensor or vaccumm that controls it that could be screwed up.1949 Plymouth Club Coupe Still in pieces.
1979 International Scout Travler with SOA, 345 Engine and 727 AT
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09-09-2004 06:15 AM #8
You were asking about sensors...i'm sure you already tried this...but I did a Google search for "high idling" on the 90 t bird...came up with a few articles that talked about something called a Mass Air Flow Sensor ---- but the symptoms it described seemed more geared toward lower idling...sputtering etc. & only way to fix it is to replace the sensor....
But also came up with a number of articles and service bulletins from Ford about the "Throttle Air Bypass Valves"...sypmtoms included High or Low idling...You miss 100% of the shots you never take
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09-09-2004 06:56 AM #9
Thanks JeriLynne I appreciate the help and the effort it took you to look those up for me1949 Plymouth Club Coupe Still in pieces.
1979 International Scout Travler with SOA, 345 Engine and 727 AT
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09-09-2004 06:59 AM #10
I'm like you Tim. I don't work on modern engines.
I think Jerilynne is on the right track. The idle is controlled by a computer. The sensors tell the computer what's going on. A bad sensor will give the computer the wrong input. The MAF sensor is the one that goes bad more often but there are other sensors on the exhaust manifolds and catalytic convertor too. I think a MAF sensor costs less than having a technition ( remember when they were called mechanics?) hook it up to a diagnostic computer. Or it might just need a new air filter." Im gone'
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11-30-2004 11:17 PM #11
hey check the IAC valve Idle air control valve....it may be bad or gunked up
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