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    BTW Roger, this is all your fault.

    My booth isn't anywhere near as sophisticated as yours..............................but I do have today's spraying on the bake cycle right now......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter View Post
    BTW Roger, this is all your fault.

    My booth isn't anywhere near as sophisticated as yours..............................but I do have today's spraying on the bake cycle right now......
    And I have no doubt you'll get a much better finish than I!! It's not the environment as much as it is the guy pulling the trigger! Now, about that OCD thing.....
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    Interesting, my wife uses that brand of glass cleaner. I steal it to do the windows on the cars when I just gotta see. The interesting part is that I have always felt it left a film. That said, I would expect it to be determental to your paint. Guess it is not so (not trying to be a jerk, just looking for experience.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooting View Post
    Interesting, my wife uses that brand of glass cleaner. I steal it to do the windows on the cars when I just gotta see. The interesting part is that I have always felt it left a film. That said, I would expect it to be determental to your paint. Guess it is not so (not trying to be a jerk, just looking for experience.)
    My paint supplier, who is also a high buck painter, swears by it for the final clean. No film, no residue, no ammonia. Worked fine for me on the primer.
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    Perhaps my windshield is dirtier than I think and I should do it more than once.
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    Lookin good,Roger..There's a great deal of prep work leading up to the finish coat,,and it's soooo good to get to that point of the game.. The coupe's looking good..So it's a black top coat too,is it?? Oh,fun.. Love your booth setup,too..A lot of work gone into that..Awesome..
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    So, which came first? paint and body work or OCD????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson View Post
    So, which came first? paint and body work or OCD????
    Well, I'd always thought it was just a dose of "perfectionist" in most things that involve building, and I had no idea it was OCD!! But since Dr Bob has made the diagnosis from a distance, I may have to seek medication Looking back, I guess his "diagnosis" also included a "treatment" suggestion, but I'm not sure having beer with my cereal is going to fly with Mama...
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    Denny (DA34Guy) asked about getting everything back together for the 3rd Greybeards run to LA. I got everything primed and blocked, ready for color and decided to shoot the hood, trunk grill and splash aprons first as a test. Splash aprons were first and looked OK - but all of the compound curves just masked what was happening. On the hood I noticed a fisheye type flaw, but big, like a 3/16" soft crater that seemed to be diminishing as it started laying down so I went ahead to the trunk. It was terrible! Many more large soft craters. After about twenty minutes I decided to put a second coat on the hood to see if it would lay flat, but it would not. Something was repelling paint in several places of varying size.

    I loaded up the hood and a splash apron and headed to the paint shop, which is also a very good custom paint shop for specialty work. No one could figure out a precise reason for the flaws, but thought that the base was salvageable with some work. Decided to wet sand lightly to open the surface, then shoot a soft bridge coat for adhesion followed by one more color coat. In the process there was an area on the trunk that I found needing more attention, and I spot primed a corner. When I shot the bridge coat of color that corner was the only part that laid down right - the rest seemed to have some type of contaminant in the paint. I re-primed the hood, then shot it using a faster reducer and it laid down right. Clear followed, and it also laid down right. At this point the other four panels have been reprimed, ready to once again sand them for color. As I said in Ken's thread, one step forward, two steps back, but the hood looks pretty good!

    The plan is to re-shoot the little pieces, then shoot a small area on the body & doors to be sure the problem's gone. My idea is that the reducer I used in the first batch of color was a previously opened can (less than 1/2 full), and that it had either absorbed moisture or evaporated some of the volatiles, changing the chemistry in the color coat that was present even after it had dried overnight.
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    Oh, man, Roger! What a nightmare!!! It's crazy how sensitive this stuff is.... Hope you got it figured out!

    On a lighter note, if you gray bearded guys come to LA, give me a shout. Would be fun to meet up somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randyr View Post
    Oh, man, Roger! What a nightmare!!! It's crazy how sensitive this stuff is.... Hope you got it figured out!

    On a lighter note, if you gray bearded guys come to LA, give me a shout. Would be fun to meet up somewhere.
    Randy,The "3rd Annual Great Greybeard Adventure" will be pullin into Pomona on the afternoon of June 12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DA34GUY View Post
    Randy,The "3rd Annual Great Greybeard Adventure" will be pullin into Pomona on the afternoon of June 12.
    Stayin @ The Red Roof Inn in San Dimas.
    Will B runnin all over So Cal Thursday and Friday, then 2 days @ LARS
    Cool! Making note of the dates. When it gets closer we'll figure something out.
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    Roger------------What do you have for an air compressor and what type oil is in it?????????????This has been a culpert in many cases like yours---------

    You could maybe positively prove/disprove by taking your air hose regulator paint gun to that shop and see if same thing happens there----

    I remember the fisheyes that appeared just after the silicone waxes came out---seems silicone is good for breast implants but not much else!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry clayton View Post
    Roger------------What do you have for an air compressor and what type oil is in it?????????????This has been a culpert in many cases like yours---------

    You could maybe positively prove/disprove by taking your air hose regulator paint gun to that shop and see if same thing happens there----

    I remember the fisheyes that appeared just after the silicone waxes came out---seems silicone is good for breast implants but not much else!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Jerry, I would agree on the compressor/oil but the problem seems to have gone away when I re-primed the hood and re-sprayed it; and more important the primer lays down like glass. I'll know more in a bit - just got the trunk lid primer sanded out, ready for some color and will probably do the doors, too, for grins.
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    Wow Roger, things like this scare to the tar out of me, when I think about trying to paint my own vs. having it done professionally. Way to hang in there and problem shoot it! Post some pics as you go, please!
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