Thread: Followed Me Home, '33 Build
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05-11-2013 10:02 PM #301
Perhaps my windshield is dirtier than I think and I should do it more than once.
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05-12-2013 03:30 AM #302
Lookin good,Roger..There's a great deal of prep work leading up to the finish coat,,and it's soooo good to get to that point of the game.. The coupe's looking good..So it's a black top coat too,is it?? Oh,fun.. Love your booth setup,too..A lot of work gone into that..Awesome..Micah 6:8
If we aren't supposed to have midnight snacks,,,WHY is there a light in the refrigerator???
Robin.
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05-12-2013 06:36 AM #303
So, which came first? paint and body work or OCD????Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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05-12-2013 07:03 AM #304
Well, I'd always thought it was just a dose of "perfectionist" in most things that involve building, and I had no idea it was OCD!! But since Dr Bob has made the diagnosis from a distance, I may have to seek medication Looking back, I guess his "diagnosis" also included a "treatment" suggestion, but I'm not sure having beer with my cereal is going to fly with Mama...Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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05-24-2013 06:08 AM #305
Denny (DA34Guy) asked about getting everything back together for the 3rd Greybeards run to LA. I got everything primed and blocked, ready for color and decided to shoot the hood, trunk grill and splash aprons first as a test. Splash aprons were first and looked OK - but all of the compound curves just masked what was happening. On the hood I noticed a fisheye type flaw, but big, like a 3/16" soft crater that seemed to be diminishing as it started laying down so I went ahead to the trunk. It was terrible! Many more large soft craters. After about twenty minutes I decided to put a second coat on the hood to see if it would lay flat, but it would not. Something was repelling paint in several places of varying size.
I loaded up the hood and a splash apron and headed to the paint shop, which is also a very good custom paint shop for specialty work. No one could figure out a precise reason for the flaws, but thought that the base was salvageable with some work. Decided to wet sand lightly to open the surface, then shoot a soft bridge coat for adhesion followed by one more color coat. In the process there was an area on the trunk that I found needing more attention, and I spot primed a corner. When I shot the bridge coat of color that corner was the only part that laid down right - the rest seemed to have some type of contaminant in the paint. I re-primed the hood, then shot it using a faster reducer and it laid down right. Clear followed, and it also laid down right. At this point the other four panels have been reprimed, ready to once again sand them for color. As I said in Ken's thread, one step forward, two steps back, but the hood looks pretty good!
The plan is to re-shoot the little pieces, then shoot a small area on the body & doors to be sure the problem's gone. My idea is that the reducer I used in the first batch of color was a previously opened can (less than 1/2 full), and that it had either absorbed moisture or evaporated some of the volatiles, changing the chemistry in the color coat that was present even after it had dried overnight.Last edited by rspears; 05-24-2013 at 06:25 AM.
Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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05-24-2013 07:05 AM #306
Oh, man, Roger! What a nightmare!!! It's crazy how sensitive this stuff is.... Hope you got it figured out!
On a lighter note, if you gray bearded guys come to LA, give me a shout. Would be fun to meet up somewhere."It is not much good thinking of a thing unless you think it out." - H.G. Wells
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05-24-2013 07:10 AM #307
When I get to where I was goin, I forgot why I went there>
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05-24-2013 07:23 AM #308
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05-24-2013 07:46 AM #309
Roger------------What do you have for an air compressor and what type oil is in it?????????????This has been a culpert in many cases like yours---------
You could maybe positively prove/disprove by taking your air hose regulator paint gun to that shop and see if same thing happens there----
I remember the fisheyes that appeared just after the silicone waxes came out---seems silicone is good for breast implants but not much else!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-24-2013 08:24 AM #310
Jerry, I would agree on the compressor/oil but the problem seems to have gone away when I re-primed the hood and re-sprayed it; and more important the primer lays down like glass. I'll know more in a bit - just got the trunk lid primer sanded out, ready for some color and will probably do the doors, too, for grins.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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05-24-2013 09:56 AM #311
Wow Roger, things like this scare to the tar out of me, when I think about trying to paint my own vs. having it done professionally. Way to hang in there and problem shoot it! Post some pics as you go, please!" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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05-24-2013 11:00 AM #312
Aer you using any type of filter before the gun? Even the little ones at the gun can help! Ask me how I know!!
Been there, Done that, bought the Tee Shirt!
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05-24-2013 02:48 PM #313
Yes, I have a filter/regulator unit just before my QD to the booth. It's doing fine now. I think that it must have been the old reducer, because today I've shot primer on the grill surround (third time ), spot primed the splash aprons (again...) and then shot base, candy and clear on the trunk lid and both doors. Got one tiny sag on the trunk lid, but it's only about an inch long and sags less than 1/4". Letting those set while we run into town for a bit, then will roll them into the other part of the shop to dry for a couple of days before wet sanding them with 800, then two or three more coats of clear before it goes back together. While they're in the other room I'll base, candy & clear the body, splash aprons and grill surround tonight or tomorrow.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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05-24-2013 03:12 PM #314
Candy?
Thought it was HENRY Black RogerWhen I get to where I was goin, I forgot why I went there>
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05-24-2013 07:15 PM #315
Thank you Roger. .
Another little bird