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Originally Posted by rspears

Black base with a coat of blue candy before the clear, to make it REALLY black Supposed to be the blackest black one can get.

That sounds interesting! I never heard of that one. Can't wait for a pic or two.. (hint - hint)

there are many shades of black that cast blue, red / brow n..some were i still have my PPG variance color deck on just white and black .some of the clean blacks were the dau 9300 factory pack s that i use that and dupont pitch black this was before Sem paint /house of color ... mix banks off the paint shop many times are a weaker black seen it on re paints . getting fish eyes or pinning comes from many things ones is to hot of a thinner on a poor prep or to much mold release . hot thinners drive waxs to the top of finish many preps not not clean a part were a strong soap need to be done first like a poly cracker . before a PPG 330 or preclean alcohol base prep need to be wiped dry or can do the same things as a slow drying top base coat . slicon from any thing can rise unholly things in the paint . dirty air lines i kep one line only for painting . a worn out air pump or a over worked compessor can add a water/oil mix that can go past many cheap traps and line filters

Originally Posted by 34_40

That sounds interesting! I never heard of that one. Can't wait for a pic or two.. (hint - hint)

Here's one of the trunk lid, but the affect of the blue candy will not be known until it hits the sunlight, or so they say.... This is an hour after the third coat, no sanding, no buffing, just raw clear.

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Awesome, Mr. Spears that's gonna be beautiful! Wow - like glass!!! You're making my my effort look feeble.

Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

..... getting fish eyes or pinning comes from many things ones is to hot of a thinner on a poor prep or to much mold release . hot thinners drive waxs to the top of finish many preps not not clean a part were a strong soap need to be done first like a poly cracker . before a PPG 330 or preclean alcohol base prep need to be wiped dry or can do the same things as a slow drying top base coat . slicon from any thing can rise unholly things in the paint . dirty air lines i kep one line only for painting . a worn out air pump or a over worked compessor can add a water/oil mix that can go past many cheap traps and line filters....

Pat, I appreciate your comments on causes of fish eyes, etc. After thinking about it I don't think I can blame the reducer being old, but the fact that it was too "hot" for the weather. We had an unseasonably cool day, and I did not properly compensate by dropping back on my reducer. Looks like I caused this "re-do" myself, but then I knew it was something that I had done. Another lesson learned....

back when i started painting there was mostly lacquer base paints in the shops i worked in .then over alls were enamels then some lacquer with a urethane clear.. lacquer base makers but still lacqure primers . fish eyes never happen much . but when we started going all urethane there was a chance of eyes .. its slow air drying it was open longer for contaminants.i worked at many shops and some that were just a hole in the wall for painting. i knew of one shop that i worked at if the wind blew the right way from the casting shop next to us we would get small pinning fish eyes .the last thing you what to do is add fish eye killer but some times you do what you have to

Wow Roger, what an awesome build you have going on here. I should have read through this a long time ago. Thank you for taking the time to post details and pictures of what you are doing; it's priceless! Thanks for tip on lifting my body off the chassis. That's what took me here to your work of art.

Originally Posted by patfromjersey

Wow Roger, what an awesome build you have going on here. I should have read through this a long time ago. Thank you for taking the time to post details and pictures of what you are doing; it's priceless! Thanks for tip on lifting my body off the chassis. That's what took me here to your work of art.

Thanks for the kind words, Pat. I'm one of those "jack of all trades" kind, and figuring out the "how & why" is a big part of every project for me.

Ya' know, learning as you go is part of the process, but I'm getting a little tired of these "lessons" With all of the "loose parts" in clear coat I sprayed base on the body yesterday. Had one little boo-boo where the hose kissed the corner of the top, but letting it dry for an hour and hitting it with some 800 grit with wax & grease remover as the wetting agent smoothed it out really quick, and a couple of coats of base had it good as new, but needed to dry at least an hour before clearing, and the time wasn't going to work so I delayed clear for this morning. In hindsight I should have gone back after dinner and shot the clear!!
This morning I was hoping to get done before any rain hit, but just as I got into the first of three coats there was a clap of thunder and raindrops were hitting the tin roof. I checked to see that it wasn't blowing into my air filters, and decided it was going to be OK. Besides, what choice did I have, other than stop in the middle of a coat?
All went well, but then in the second coat the sky opened and it started POURING! Just finishing up the roof and all of a sudden I see a spatter of moisture! Now I'd had zero problems with my air, but my first thought was that it had spit a little drop that had spattered on the surface. Little did I know, but there was a bigger drop there, and it made a MESS Having been schooled to keep spraying through any problem I finished that coat, and while waiting for it to flash I went in, blew down my compressor, checked to be sure that I had indeed cracked the drain on the moisture separator to bleed off any collected water, and blew my air line into a cup to see if anything came out - all was clean and dry About that time I looked up to the rafters and saw a wet spot with a drip hanging, right above my wet spot! Now this roof has never leaked that I recall, but the wind & heavy rain apparently blew just enough under the ridge panel to form a leak.
I blew out all of the moisture from the surface, and that opened up several small bubbles in the clear. Shot the third coat, going light on that area, and now will wait for it to dry thoroughly before I work it down to fix the flaws.
At this point the body's like a beautiful centerfold model with a big zit!! The water "floated" the clear, forming a nasty sag down the recessed molding above the window. Going to have to be careful to not sand through the clear into the base here. Sure wish I'd have gone back out to spray last night....
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Roger the paint Gods are giving you a run for the money for sure! Sounds like your holding your own with them. I remember the last roof leak, it was the day I was laid off from work, and all the roads were flooding. I remember a bit of frustration and screaming at the skies! Fortunately things got better, and I got a better job and income as a result of it!
No point to this, just wanted to acknowledge your hard work and perseverance! Keep posting! Everything looks great other than the water marks!

I feel your pain, Roger!! Seems like I get to do all of my projects at least 2 or 3 times before they're finished.....

It's looking awesome, though!!!

at least it won't rust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roger ...Been there done that. that shoulda woulda coulda thing will beat you up.. There is a way to fix the water spot. Just think of all the knowledge your gaining

Originally Posted by cffisher

Roger ...Been there done that. that shoulda woulda coulda thing will beat you up.. There is a way to fix the water spot. Just think of all the knowledge your gaining

Yeah, I should have left it alone, but based on my earlier success I worked on it with some 800 grit & wax & grease remover. Worked great on the flat body, but then I tried to get the massive drip out of the molding and sanded through the base so now I'm going to be talking my paint guy about the best way to accomplish a spot repair, given my base approach. With the holiday that will be tomorrow.... Like I said, these lessons learned are killing me....

Experience can be a cruel teacher! That's crazy - with that beautiful booth you created you also get a roof leak.... Sounds like Mr. Murphy was at work today!