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Roger will be giving you a call when the time comes for this truck. Mine won't be as shinny as yours! The photos you posted look nice. I agree with Dave it's a driver! Post some shots of the freshly painted test drive!

I agree with all that's been said! If "we're" gonna drive'em they'll carry some scars for certain. Like you I have a gravel drive and I used to grimace every time I heard a stone bang around underneath.. Now, I only sigh...

I still want to re-do mine... but in a different blue. We'll see, maybe in a few years..

Originally Posted by rspears

Today I'll be out to get the hoist off, tighten the mounts up, and get the wiring hooked up as well as polishing out the top (again ) and getting after the driver's side sanding and polishing. Still have the hood, trunk and splash aprons ahead of me, and the trunk and one splash apron may be candidates for re-spraying vs trying to save the clear.

Splash aprons - one of the reasons I built a lowboy. The other reason? Fenders. Less to fit, less to paint, less to wash, less to polish.

Talking to my paint guy, he shared that if a sag or run is too big it's often best to just bite the bullet and re-spray the panel. He suggested that I try the repair on the worst part, buff it out with 1500 wet, compound and glaze and then see if the edges of the flaw still show. I of course, felt that I could salvage anything, and after spending several hours on the trunk and one splash apron I thought they were good until I moved outdoors and found that in the harsh sunlight I could clearly see the lines of each problem area So late today I opened the clear with 800 grit, and transformed the work area back to a spray booth. I had also sanded into the color coat on the edge of the hood, so I repaired that and re-cleared the hood, too. At the last minute I pulled the splash apron because it looked like I had gone through the clear coat, so tomorrow I'll sand it down, prime, color and clear it.
With the engine & tranny in I got the new clutch master installed and bled and lit it off to move the car out of the way. Again, when I got the car outside I noticed several "problem areas" in the finish I'll tell you, doing black as a first time paint experience is a baptism in fire!! I've come to the conclusion that it'll look somewhat better than it did before, so life goes on!!

Originally Posted by rspears

Talking to my paint guy, he shared that if a sag or run is too big it's often best to just bite the bullet and re-spray the panel. He suggested that I try the repair on the worst part, buff it out with 1500 wet, compound and glaze and then see if the edges of the flaw still show. I of course, felt that I could salvage anything, and after spending several hours on the trunk and one splash apron I thought they were good until I moved outdoors and found that in the harsh sunlight I could clearly see the lines of each problem area So late today I opened the clear with 800 grit, and transformed the work area back to a spray booth. I had also sanded into the color coat on the edge of the hood, so I repaired that and re-cleared the hood, too. At the last minute I pulled the splash apron because it looked like I had gone through the clear coat, so tomorrow I'll sand it down, prime, color and clear it.
With the engine & tranny in I got the new clutch master installed and bled and lit it off to move the car out of the way. Again, when I got the car outside I noticed several "problem areas" in the finish I'll tell you, doing black as a first time paint experience is a baptism in fire!! I've come to the conclusion that it'll look somewhat better than it did before, so life goes on!!

well i tried to tell you in a nice way so you would not wast time in post #338 .#340 others... but? sorry you had to learn the hard way. no one took the time to tell me. i painted 100.s of car.s and truck.s . some boats and plane .s work in many shop .s over the years . knew and know guys that paint like i did for a living pulling off a perfect blend is not going to happen less you have many hours with a gun in your hand and that no guarantee. thats why many painters drink or take some herb to level them out

Sorry to hear of the "problem areas".. I'm certain it'll look a lot better than before.

Every time I look at mine I want to sand it all down and start anew...

But at least when I hear a rock hit it.. I don't care!!

Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

well i tried to tell you in a nice way so you would not wast time in post #338 .#340 others... but? sorry you had to learn the hard way. no one took the time to tell me. i painted 100.s of car.s and truck.s . some boats and plane .s work in many shop .s over the years . knew and know guys that paint like i did for a living pulling off a perfect blend is not going to happen less you have many hours with a gun in your hand and that no guaranty. thats why many painters drink or take some herb to level them out

I guess I didn't know enough to follow what you were saying, Pat.

Originally Posted by 34_40

Sorry to hear of the "problem areas".. I'm certain it'll look a lot better than before.

Every time I look at mine I want to sand it all down and start anew...

But at least when I hear a rock hit it.. I don't care!!

Yeah Mike, pulling the car out of the barn into the sunlight showed me in spades that I'm no painter!! Maybe if I'd chosen something other than black....

[QUOTE=rspears;496678]I guess I didn't know enough to follow what you were saying, Pat. ..... OUCH ...you really did not under stand post 338 and 340 ?

Roger - I've been reading some posts from you on other threads (including mine) for years, but just this evening found and read this thread! DUH!! Anyway, nice build. As for your paint, I think it looks great. You really asked for headaches when you chose black for a first time painter. Black shows flaws/problems as if you put it under a magnifying glass.

I painted my first car when I was 17 and have been doing paint work ever since (I'm 65 now). When I hear of people paying $15,000 and more for a paint job it makes me choke. How ridiculous! I've never been afraid to pull the trigger on a spray gun. If I screwed it up, what's the worst that could happen? I had to sand it out and do it again; so what! I learned from my mistakes and still saved thousands of $$$. Good for you, Roger, nice job.

Some number of years ago, I was watching an older gent paint a black truck, it was single stage paint, he had gotten a run in the side, he put his spray gun down, grabbed a eight inch strip of two inch wide masking tape off the roll, using two hands form sort of a bow in front of him and stuck right to the run, pulled it back and it had a perfect id on the tape of the run, he waited about five minutes and hit that spot again with the spray gun and couldn`t tell where the run had been...

Originally Posted by J. Robinson

Roger - I've been reading some posts from you on other threads (including mine) for years, but just this evening found and read this thread! DUH!! Anyway, nice build. As for your paint, I think it looks great. You really asked for headaches when you chose black for a first time painter. Black shows flaws/problems as if you put it under a magnifying glass.

I painted my first car when I was 17 and have been doing paint work ever since (I'm 65 now). When I hear of people paying $15,000 and more for a paint job it makes me choke. How ridiculous! I've never been afraid to pull the trigger on a spray gun. If I screwed it up, what's the worst that could happen? I had to sand it out and do it again; so what! I learned from my mistakes and still saved thousands of $$$. Good for you, Roger, nice job.

Thanks, Jim. Coming from you I consider that high praise. Lots of things on this build have been "a learning experience", but this paint has been a big one! I'd still do it again, though, and will!

Originally Posted by 406Rich

Some number of years ago, I was watching an older gent paint a black truck, it was single stage paint, he had gotten a run in the side, he put his spray gun down, grabbed a eight inch strip of two inch wide masking tape off the roll, using two hands form sort of a bow in front of him and stuck right to the run, pulled it back and it had a perfect id on the tape of the run, he waited about five minutes and hit that spot again with the spray gun and couldn`t tell where the run had been...

Rich, I've heard of that before but I'd like to see it done before I try it! Of course, if a guy know's he's going to be sanding the panel down to re-coat anyway......., maybe it'd be worth a try!! Another arrow in the quiver??

Originally Posted by 406Rich

Some number of years ago, I was watching an older gent paint a black truck, it was single stage paint, he had gotten a run in the side, he put his spray gun down, grabbed a eight inch strip of two inch wide masking tape off the roll, using two hands form sort of a bow in front of him and stuck right to the run, pulled it back and it had a perfect id on the tape of the run, he waited about five minutes and hit that spot again with the spray gun and couldn`t tell where the run had been...

yep we did that if you put a run in some things or i use this more for plucking junk out . i had sewing needles that i used to hook junk out of paint or tweezers. many times i run the paint off the panel if on a lower .wash boy i was teaching him how to paint did this one time to show him what to do. i was painting a black car 30 year ago with my buddy we were shoooting cars together . his sisters car black single stage was teaching him how to paint in a dark shop he was having fun with me hanged a small run off the sports side mirror he kept on me about that damn drip .so he was painting in gym shorts ? so i looked at him said you know whats really funny ?no i do not.... so i painted to side of has leg black enamel

Do those tricks for pulling a run, or plucking things off the surface work just as good for clear? I'd think the answer is yes, because clear coat is just single stage paint without any pigment in it. I may need to add a pair of tweezers & a big needle to my paint booth tools!

Originally Posted by rspears

Do those tricks for pulling a run, or plucking things off the surface work just as good for clear? I'd think the answer is yes, because clear coat is just single stage paint without any pigment in it. I may need to add a pair of tweezers & a big needle to my paint booth tools!

many times its just tape as it allways around the paint shop close by i used it folded over like a loop to scoop junk out

OK, I'm becoming convinced that my experience painting is JINXED!! My one splash apron was so bad I decided to sand it down and start over. Luckily I called my paint guy, and he told me that with the amount of material on there I needed to get all the clear off, and suggested working it down with thinner. Took a bit, but I finally got it down to base & primer again. I decided since I was going to be shooting from scratch, primer, base & clear, I might as well add the dash to the job so I pulled all the gauges and AC vents and got it ready for primer. Shot two coats of epoxy on both pieces, plus a couple of radiator brace brackets, and let them cure over night. This morning I got out there early and shot the base black & candy blue. Let that cure an hour, and got ready for clear. Shot the first coat, left to let it flash for ten or fifteen minutes and came back for the second coat. Did the brackets, then the dash, then finished with the splash apron. Everything looking great, good shine, no sags, no runs, and about that time I see a little tan worm, maybe 1/2" long & 1/16" around, inching up the bottom edge of the dash, right on the passenger corner!! A stinkin' WORM!! Where did a stinkin' WORM come from!! By the time I turned, grabbed an awl nearby, and got back he was on the front corner, heading up!! I hooked him & flipped him to the floor, staring in dismay at the worm trail in the wet clear I grabbed the gun and gave it a quick hit, but then I remembered Rich's post, where he mentioned the old guy waiting five minutes, hitting it again and the run disappearing. Sooooo, I stood there counting seconds, watching the clock and at five minutes hit that corner a couple of shots. After about three or four minutes the worm trail was all but gone!! Easily sandable during cut & buff.

Rich, thanks big time for sharing that old story. It added an arrow to the quiver, and helped me save the dash spray job without piling on more clear while it was too wet!!