Thread: Followed Me Home, '33 Build
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01-30-2010 08:21 PM #31
I had run across an article on the the spacers, they have the same issue with putting crown vicky discs on the eight inch housing, one individual took very large washers, one for each side and just cut a slot in them to get them over the axle behind the retainer and bolted the retainers back in. here`s a pic, just a little crude but with some engineering could be better...so you wouldn`t have to press off the bearings.Toys
`37 Ford Coupe
`64 Chevy Fleet side
`69 RS/SS
`68 Dodge Dart
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01-30-2010 09:17 PM #32
Thanks for the heads up. I will look into a set of rings before going much farther. 406Rich, thanks for an alternate approach, too. I will do some research, but I doubt they are in place - my rear came from John's set for drums, and N&N sourced the disc package separately. It would have been too easy to overlook the spacers.
Jack, the tour in Italy should be a great time. Like you said, most expenses covered and you'll have opportunities to see parts of the world that are so rich in history. Stay in touch if it works out for you, and come to KC for a ride when you get back on this side of the pond.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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01-31-2010 08:02 AM #33
Wow, what an opportunity!!!! Let me know if you need an assistant to sign up for that tour!!!!! I spent 90 days bummin' around Europe way back in '72 and had an absolute blast!! Sure would be fun to do it again and see how much things have changed. I have a lot of great memories from the trip--and some that are still a bit fuzzy!!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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01-31-2010 08:11 AM #34
Roger,
You can do the washer trick with the spacers also - cut out a section to allow slipping them over the axle. I did that before I found out about the seal problem. At that point, I had to replace the bearings, so I had the shop drop them on before pressing on the new bearings.
When I'm done with my three years in Italy, I'm hanging up the slide rule and moving to Texas. I may stop in KC, though, since my youngest son and his family live there.Jack
Gone to Texas
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02-01-2010 11:26 AM #35
Hey Roger, what heads did Mr. Sehr put on your engine??? You probably said, but I think I left my memory out at the other shop yesterday....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-01-2010 12:25 PM #36
They are what he calls the "Aussie Alumimum Head Upgrade w/bowl porting", 2.05" intakes, 1.60" exhausts. I called Sehr and they are a ProComp Renegade bare head that he mills and then builds up to his specs. That's all I can tell you, other than Scotty has had good experience with them.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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02-01-2010 01:42 PM #37
Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-01-2010 06:10 PM #38
There has been lots of interest in EFI recently. I'm using a Tanks, Inc #U9-A trunk mounted tank, and all that is needed to convert it for EFI service is a return port. The easy way to do that is to either 1) weld a NPT bung on the blankoff plate for the filler port not used, either top or end, or 2) (my way) drill a nominal 9/16" hole in the blankoff and install a bulkhead AN to barbed hose fitting, with a short piece of hose inside the tank to direct flow down into the tank volume. I'm using the top port for a straight neck, billet cap filler port, leaving the end port for the return line. I can zip tie the internal return hose to the internal supply tube, then install the blankoff plate with gasket. Tanks, Inc says that the solution to EFI is their internal tank mounted pump assembly, with the supply, return, and vent on one bolt on connection, but all you need is a return port to make the universal tank work. For me, I like an external, frame mounted pump for future troubleshooting/maintenance access. Here is the #U9-A tank I'm using. One thing to know, the slanted filler is only available for external connection, no cap. The billet cap only comes on the straight neck filler. My tank tilts back about 12 degrees to hook to the internal steel bracing, so a straight neck will be OK.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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02-11-2010 08:11 PM #39
Tonight I got the accessory drive package from Rocky Hinge installed for an initial fit to check clearances and general fit. My SFI balancer came with an adapter set to support three different drive pulley positions, but I was missing a 2 3/8" external retainer ring that was a bit tough to find. Grainger's came through but it came in a five pack - anyone need a 2 3/8" snap ring I have four spares!! Rocky's brackets went on smooth and the fit seems to be good. The AC compressor clears the head by about 1/8", but then that is what it takes with a small block Ford for front clearance. I'm not sure how these pictures will show up - they are not bad in full resolution, but in smaller size may be dark and hard to see detail. I did not put the belts on yet, as it all has to come apart to paint the water pump and install everything with gaskets, lock tite and silicone on the bolts.
The good thing is that I have a little more than 1/2" clearance between the water pump pulley and the STAL puller fan motor. I was hoping for 1/4", and have more than twice that. From my research Rocky Hinge has the shortest package on the market for small block Ford drives. Most others make their own custom timing cover, and still end up more than an inch longer. Rocky's is a twin v-belt drive, not serpentine.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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02-11-2010 09:03 PM #40
Really looks great Roger!!!! I still like the belts, especially on a classy looking setup like the front of your engine. Did my pick-em-up with serpentine, but mainly cuz it was stuff I already had laying around left over from other projects.... The whole car is really taking shape and lookin' good!!! Hope to get a chance to come for a visit this summer if you don't mind giving free rides to old hippies, that is!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-12-2010 01:37 AM #41
Looks very nice. It just hurts shelling the dough for those pristine pulleys! But boy howdy, they do look great." "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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02-12-2010 03:10 PM #42
Steve, I agree, but I paid $1350 for the whole setup - shorty Ford water pump, AC compressor and alternator. Those three pieces alone are $650 to $700 and I still had no pulleys, brackets or bolts. Other guys (March, Vintage Air) make their own front covers from billet, putting their costs about $1000 more for SBF kits, and they are one to two inches longer than Rocky's. The main driver for me was getting all of the pieces to have belt alignment without chasing parts and pieces for weeks, and trying to cabbage together brackets from OEM parts.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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02-13-2010 08:28 AM #43
Dave, you'd be welcome any time - just give me a heads up when you're coming. I also told the guys at Sehr that a road trip to Sioux Falls was possible for a good shakedown once the beast is together - I won't say "when it's done" because it will probably never to "done done".Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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02-13-2010 08:34 AM #44
Yeah, we were talking the other day about maybe getting down to the big track either for a NASCAR event, or maybe to the drags.... Have to see how things go. Still so dang cold and nasty around here I just don't feel like going anywhere!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-13-2010 11:08 AM #45
Wow looks great, them pullies set off the motor too.
I'm scared to ask what you were using for bate to get that thing to follow you home.
I can't get a stray cat to follow me home with ten cans of open tuna!!!
Kurt
Thank you Roger. .
Another little bird