Thread: 57 Chevy Cruizer
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10-24-2012 10:18 AM #1
Hey Dave, Since your looking for Aero and ain't got nuthin else to do anyway, might lay the head lights back 10 degrees and take a couple inches outa the brows.
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10-24-2012 12:54 PM #2
Yeah, headlights are definitely going to be a challenge.... Stock they had that great big trim piece, plus the vent intake on top... Going to take some reshaping and re-sizing to get the openings down to the correct dimension... Gave some thought to getting the size correct, then maybe bend up a lexan cover of some sort??? Not sure, guess I'm just ignoring the top of the fender for now!!!!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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10-24-2012 11:30 AM #3
How much lighter will the glass bumper be than the steel? I know your lookin to shave as much weight as posible" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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10-24-2012 11:37 AM #4
Edit...Double posted site glitch!Last edited by stovens; 10-24-2012 at 11:56 AM.
" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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10-24-2012 11:50 AM #5
That front bumper With all the iron that holds it in place I'd bet its well over 100#Charlie
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10-24-2012 01:02 PM #6
Charlie, this is the big, heavy one piece bumper with the added on pieces, too. With the irons I'd say it was dang close to 100 lbs.!!!
34-30, I'll use some really high strength matte that I have left over from the Merc's, really light weight and super strong, used to use it on the floorboards and federwells building 'glass cars.... the 'glass bumper and it's attaching hardware will come in under 5 lbs. Adding in everything else that's being removed and replaced with lighter bracing (1" 6061 T-6 aluminum tubing) from the firewall forward the weight reduction will be around 300+ lbs. Still shooting for 2500 lbs. or less wet weight with the car ready to fire!!
PS--Anybody have any use for a '57 Chevy front bumper narrowed up about 1 1/2"???? The purists sure do hate it!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
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10-27-2012 03:44 PM #7
Made up a couple mock up pieces for the ends of the new grille openings. Not sure it's a final design, going to leave them taped in place and look at them for a few days. Lousy angle on the camera, too much stuff in the garage and no room to get things spread out yet.....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
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10-27-2012 04:17 PM #8
Dave, you could lay the headlights back ala 39 Ford. It would change the character of the car and the purists sure wouldn't like it, but I think it would cheat the wind somewhat.Ken Thomas
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10-27-2012 04:21 PM #9
That's still an option I'm considering, Ken....with the huge opening for the headlight trim, bucket, and air vent intake I've also been considering extending and minimizing the headlight opening to put a normal sized headlight bucket in, like maybe the Hagan frenched lights. Not ideal, but it's gotta be better then what the factory built as far as aero is concerned, isn't it?????Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
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10-27-2012 04:48 PM #10
I saw one done that way at the Street Rod Nats this year in Springfield. I think they were from a Porsche or Benz or some foreign car. Not exactly my cup of tea for a cruizer though I can see where it would help air flow.Ken Thomas
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The simplest road is usually the last one sought
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10-27-2012 05:29 PM #11
Yeah, that's the challenge in the thing, Ken.... Still want to keep the basic design of the '57, just tweak things around a bit to smooth out the airflow..... I guess if it was easy, everybody would be doing it, huh??? I'll start cutting up some posterboard and mock things up a little one of these days and post some pics....
Thanks a bunch for the input! Keep the ideas coming, I sure do need them!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
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10-28-2012 10:51 AM #12
Maybe you could rig up a light weight lens cover that is fairly easy to attach to airstream the light while racing, but easily removeable for day to day driving to retain the classic look? Kind of like the jet engine intake covers they put on them when on the ground, to keep little crttiers out." "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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10-29-2012 04:46 AM #13
That was one of the first options to be considered, Steve.... Unfortunately my pal Tommy reminded me that a "real Hot Rodder" wouldn't take such a chicken poo-poo way out of an "engineering opportunity", so what could I do then???
Went to the store last week and got 10 new pieces of posterboard to make patterns out of, think I'll just keep messing with the headlight openings and maybe stumble over a plan that smooths things out and looks decent... But meanwhile I do have a piece of clear Lexan laying around to make covers out of.....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
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10-29-2012 07:28 AM #14
I've had this idea in my mind for a couple'a days but have hesitated sharing it. First because, I've never done it! And second because it isn't my car but... here goes nothing.
How about following the lead of Ford & Chrysler from "back in the day" and give it the "talledaga" treatment? A 1 inch pie wedge from just above the front tires / wheel opening to the front grille top...??..?? This would reduce the frontal area a bit and just drive the purists bonkers!
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10-29-2012 07:41 AM #15
Had that all taped out on the car once.... decided it wouldn't look right without doing something to the roof (think Chezoom), so anyway, that's already been done! Main goal is still to get a ridiculously high top end on the car---and keep it "stock appearing"--which is always up to interpretation, I suppose!!!!! Also thought about sectioning the entire body a few inches, but saving that for a different project.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
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