Thread: Project "Left Overs" is back alive !

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Thanks, Jim and Whip, but when I screw up I don't mess around, I do it right. Jim, I didn't get your email, but thanks for the thought.

Dan just got home from work and I talked with him about the center mount, and he agrees it would be easy to fab up one to bolt onto either side of that 3/4 inch thick plate. We are going to look at it tonight, when we go to feed the strays.

Don

Nice to see you back .i get that way at times to don .lucky i do not have a cat like you do i would of sat in my chair stroking the fur on the cat backwards talking to myself ....well i do that anyways.... parts are on there way let me know when you see them should be two days

Yeah, there must have been a full moon, or something. We'll look for the parts. Glad the 454 was good.

Don

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

Yeah, there must have been a full moon, or something. We'll look for the parts. Glad the 454 was good.

Don

well it should work my helper was turning it poping out the pistons and it was squeaking at him ...she was in need of a rebuild .. still a good start there. so i am good with it .your P.M is full don .i will send the out the balance in the next day or two .THANKS DON

Hey Pat letz steel Don's thread for awhile, How is your back (burn) now? Is it at the stage where you can sleep on your back comfortably ? Sorry Don for side tracking your thread but I have been meaning to ask Pat now for awhile and keep forgetting, must be catching mums disease eh.

Go ahead, Whip, hijack it all you want. God knows I haven't been doing so great with it lately.

Pat, I couldn't figure out how to clean out my PM's with the new format, but I just got it done.........sorry.

Don

Originally Posted by Whiplash23T

Hey Pat letz steel Don's thread for awhile, How is your back (burn) now? Is it at the stage where you can sleep on your back comfortably ? Sorry Don for side tracking your thread but I have been meaning to ask Pat now for awhile and keep forgetting, must be catching mums disease eh.

well i will tell you i do not like to talk much about it but you wanted to know so hang on i was sleeping on it all the time it was burnt . it is to the point now were its just red but healed up . feels like i have tape on my back and can not be in the sun much . not much at all to bitch about at all .i have other things that let me know i not dead i think about how i could of burnt up this may sound weak in the head. i think about it as there was a 5 gallon pail with one gallon of parts cleaner in it not far from me if someone was in the shop they may of threw it on my back thinking i was water . how are you doing?

Still a good little read.I have often wondered how those mounts would go,being that far apart..but I wont say any more bout that..I think you need to jump on big silver bird,and come down to New Zealand for a few weeks,and freeze ya arse off with us penguins.. Exchange rate isnt too bad,,has been better..Your sons can feed the strays...Sounds like you need a break..

Glad you are "back", Don. I figured you would be and that you just had had a bad day - and none of us have added patience to our virtues as we get a bit longer of tooth. That's one of the reasons I send my wife out to do battle on occasion - she's the trained professional mediator in the family.

NOW - on with the build

Originally Posted by IC2

Glad you are "back", Don. I figured you would be and that you just had had a bad day - and none of us have added patience to our virtues as we get a bit longer of tooth..

NOW - on with the build

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Good to hear your doing good old chap, To cheer you up heres a pic of a nice workshop

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

Ok, where to start? First off, I would like to apologize to Jerry and everyone who was just trying to help with their suggestions and comments. You did nothing I haven't done a thousand times on here, so I should have taken it as just being helpful.

I guess what caught me the wrong way was that we had put in two 12 hour days figuring out the mount and then the subject of needing a center support wouldn't go away. I think I was tired, and also a bit childish.... ok, VERY childish....taking my ball and going home.

I actually had it in the back of my mind about that setup putting a lot of stress on the aluminum bellhousing area, because I remember reading about that years ago when Hurst mounts were being used alot. Something about them being ok with cast iron bellhousings but not aluminum. But I wanted to get further into the build before I thought about that aspect........I could always add the support at a later time.

I called Bob Bendtsen today, who makes the adapter I am using and he said some people don't use any support there, but it is highly recommended. He said some people modify the stock bellhousing mounts to work, and others fab up something off of the 3/4 inch thick adapter plate he includes with his kit.

I think what we will do is maybe weld some wings onto that plate and run some rubber bisquits, one per side, to support the back of the motor there. I looked at it last night, when I put the motor and transmission back into the car, and there is plenty of room to do that.

My Son Don said he saw my last post and said that sometimes written words come out different than what we intended on saying, and he is right. Again, I apologize to all the people who were just trying to be good friends, but who caught me on an off day. Please accept my apologies.

Don

I'm glad you guys are a forgiving lot. Thanks for that.

Steve, you have GOT to start paying your shop help more money. The poor girl can't even afford a proper uniform, and has to ride a bike to work ! Uh, second thought, start paying her less !

Last night Dan and I went to the shop and looked over the center mount situation. After bolting everything up we found two tapped holes that Bendtsens put in the plate that must be there for the express purpose of bolting on some mounts there. We can find no other reason for them. That is good, so all we have to do is fab up two small Hurst type side mounts that bolt on there and extend out to the frame rails on either side. We can use a second set of earlly Ford bisquit mounts, and in essence the motor will be hung in a cradle of sorts, and the transmission center mount will be just icing on the cake and there to support only the transmission.

What we will end up with will be kinda like a front engine and mid engine plate setup, except it will have rubber bisquits on all four corners. Dan doesn't like just those two holes in the adapter plate holding all the stress, so he is convinced we need to tap one more hole into the plate where I have the little red dot in the picture below. I think two holes are plenty, but overkill never hurts.

We put the torque convertor on last night and bolted the transmission back on to make sure any mount we make won't interfere with anything, but there is plenty of clearance at those two spots. That will be our project Friday, and maybe making the tranny crossmember too. What is not shown in the picture below is the cast aluminum starter switchover housing that bolts up tight there and encloses everything. It also gives some strength to the bottom of the adapter. The original one was cast iron, but I have an aluminum aftermarket one that moves the starter to the right side for steering box clearance.

Don

Don it looking good. I put some center mounts on mine, I thought the TH350 bell housing was kinda thin. But I did have a 55 Chevy about 35 years ago with a 396 and muncie, aluminum bell housing and no center mounts. Drove the mess outa it and never a problem. Of course young and dumb sometimes you get away with something and didn't even know it..... The way I drive now, that center mount will do nothing except give me some peace of mind.

Originally Posted by roadster32

Good to hear your doing good old chap, To cheer you up heres a pic of a nice workshop

I had to go back and look at this again, to see what Don was talking about her? shop uniform. I didn't notice the lass in the pic, I guess I was too busy looking at that nice wide bike tire..................

Didn't notice the lass in the pic??!!! Are you nearsighted? How old ARE you? Wait.., you're not one of them "funny boys" are you?