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    Mike, I should have. This one was more messy than usual. Typically you install them with an initial click plus 4, you know on the bench, off the engine, Haha. But this one wanted initial plus 6 so that was 3-4 times removing the side plug and that allows the oil to run out and there's no real nice way to catch it so it goes everywhere. Plus it snowed etc. Just a bad deal to be doing out doors.
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    Sorry for your pain. I guess it's like that old saying, "Some days you're the bug, Some days you're the windshield".
    Over here outdoors was 7 degrees! High of 16. 8-(

    I didn't even bother going to the shop. it takes hours to warm the place up at that temp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    Sorry for your pain. I guess it's like that old saying, "Some days you're the bug, Some days you're the windshield".
    Over here outdoors was 7 degrees! High of 16. 8-(

    I didn't even bother going to the shop. it takes hours to warm the place up at that temp.
    Today got up to 18* and we're below 0 now. A high of 5 tomorrow but a low over night of -10 or less.

    This morning I started out by installing the head studs in the lh head on the 7.3. I then torqued them and started cleaning the threads on the rh bank. I got to the 6th one and found a broken bolt. It's about 1 1/8" below the deck surface and is 1.700" deep. I got a hole drilled through the bolt finally. I put an extractor in it and tried a few different ways to get it to budge. Then the worst happened. The extractor broke in there. So now, I've been trying to cut through the extractor with no real luck. I'm really pissed I never saw it until now. I didn't pull all the head bolts out because I got it with only 2 bolts in each side. It's turned into a crap show now.

    On a brighter note, we did get my new heater in the garage. No more multi fuel salamander.
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    [QUOTE=40FordDeluxe;562881]Today got up to 18* and we're below 0 now. A high of 5 tomorrow but a low over night of .....The extractor broke in there. So now, I've been trying to cut through the extractor with no real luck. I'm really pissed I never saw it until now. I didn't pull all the head bolts out because I got it with only 2 bolts in each side. It's turned into a crap show now.

    On a brighter note, we did get my new heater in the garage. No more multi fuel salamander.

    It's like an old re-run of ABC Wide World of Sports.. from the Thrill of Victory to the Agony of Defeat! ARGHHHhhhh..

    What are you using for drills.? Got cobalt or carbide?

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    In the past I've had luck busting up an extractor (or tap) using a punch. They are hard, so somewhat fragile.

    If you are successful in removing the extractor, my next step would be to fully drill out the bolt, using a left handed drill. Often the drill will grab the bolt and spin it out. (Be very careful doing this with a drill press. If you don't back out when the bolt extracts you'll shatter the drill.)
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    They make what is called Die Drills they have a cost factor but can drill out ANYTHING. I have used them with good success in the past.
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    Find a shop that has an EDM------


    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...4FhPYr4UkyfuRg
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    I was tapping out a rusted thru shower drain cover bolt this summer when the tap broke in the hole. Nothing I had would cut thru it, including the carbide and cobalt drill bits. Fortunately it wasn't a necessary torque spck bolt going in their so shower caulk added to a short screw is doing a nice job so far. On my 460 the read valve cover bolt broke off in the head. Fortunately the screw extractor and drilling combo got that one out!
    I feel your pain!
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    I was looking at the die drill bits yesterday but the owner didn't want to spend that much on them. He has Al Parker from Parker performance coming over tonight to drill it out. I guess Al said he has bits that will drill it right out. I hope he does drill it right out. I sure don't feel like tearing this thing back apart, and I'm already sick of drilling on it.

    Jerry, the EDM sure would be slick. No place I know of around here has one though. I've made a lot of calls and searched some different avenues. I do have some tanerite in the gun safe that would get it out one way or another though. Haha
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    Here is a bad pic of the heater. It is a 75k btu unit. It works pretty awesome. Then, there is a pic of the bolt hole with the broken bolt and extractor. The last pic is of me driving the 72 out of it's zip code, getting wood for a home made Christmas project. It was a high of 4*.
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    4 degrees??? UM.... you're gonna need a bigger heater! I hope it stays out there too!

    What'cha building for Christmas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    4 degrees??? UM.... you're gonna need a bigger heater! I hope it stays out there too!

    What'cha building for Christmas?
    Sunday was a high of 0*, with a -14* low. Saturday night I finally started putting plastic on our windows. What a big difference that makes on some old windows.

    We built a bench, my wife has been crocheting all kinds of hats, scarfs, ear warmers, booties for little ones, and we've got some furniture re purposing to do to. I put pics in the home made gift thread just a minute ago of the bench.
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    Last night at work I got a call from my wife and she was telling me her truck was chugging bad and wasn't running right. I thought oh great. The pos mini van she can't drive because it has skim module issues and the blower motor crapped out. The 95 crew cab Ford I baught I still don't have the title for, so we can't do anything with it... I took my daughter to school this morning and came back and fired her truck up. Sure enough, another injection line broke. Luckily I have timeserts left, and I have some good used lines from the silver dodge I just converted to a P-pump. So I swapped a #4 injection line on it, fixed a return line that was dripping fuel, and found and fixed the issue with the inop cruise control.

    Then I had time to install the reman turbo onto another 99 Dodge I got in. I have to get exhaust for it, install it, and then it will be done.

    The guy from the machine shop has had no luck getting the broken extractor/bolt out of the block. They tried some chemical sand last night and it really didn't do anything. He tried drilling tonight with no luck. So now it might be coming all back apart to go to the machine shop to get placed on a machine to get drilled out. But, I did get the truck's fuel tank steam cleaned, and installed the new 5/8" pick up tube. There was a lot of gunk in that tank and the stock suction filter/extension was off the stock suction tube floating in the debris. Haha
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    Not sure what to say Ryan.. I'm searching for the bright side.

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    It keeps getting better. Last night I was driving home from work and I got caught behind some slow pokes next to a semi. Once the semi turned off the road I went around the pokes. I ran it a little hard but not thrashing it a few times having fun after that. This morning I took it to go meet a buddy to trade some parts with, and when I starting accelerating on the highway, I noticed was the truck was way doggy. Literally no power. I figured it was low on fuel. But the more I thought about it, the more I was thinking lack of fuel in the tank wasn't the issue. It wasn't coughing, bucking, nothing odd. After I met my buddy Dave, I went and put fuel in the truck. It took 7 gallons. Yeah, I figured it wasn't low fuel. This tank holds 16 gallons. So I took my middle child to school and went home and changed the fuel filters hoping that was it. I didn't see anything obvious but the fuel didn't look green like it normally does. My nose is semi plugged, but the fuel smelled like diesel, but not as strong as normal. I drove it to work and it's the same. Runs ok until about half throttle and then it doesn't do much. It'll run highway speeds, the engine doesn't heat up, still has normal oil pressure.

    I need to put some gauges on it and see what is going on. First I thought maybe one of the turbos is locked up but they sound the same. Also, if that was the case it would be smoking black from lack of air. Same thing if the air filter was plugged/restricted. It will not hardly smoke. I foot braked it to see what would happen and it'll barely puff any smoke. Normally if you do that it will put some out. (Which I try to avoid any how) So, I'm leaning towards a weak lift pump, bad/watered down fuel, or I'm not sure yet. I'll see if I can put some make shift gauges on it for the trip home.

    At least it still made it to work and I didn't have to drive the pos mini van. Haha
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