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03-24-2013 09:14 PM #106
I figured weather got you as I watched the national news. Gymkhana is serious drifting, tires spinning and no insurance company would touch that coverage among a bunch of bucket heads. To date, there just isn't any skill or performance contests we with bucket-t get to participate in. No drags, road tracks, or even parking lot auto-cross. Most all t-bucket folks don't care, their ride is shined up for shows, not designed and wrenched on for competition. I am the odd ball in that group. When we go on cruises, I'll never be the leader, but to make things more fun for me when the cruise is on twisty roads, I'll fall back so I can bank and crank the turns. Problem is the cars behind me after a few of these fall backs are no longer keeping up.Bob
427 sbc 526 HP 556 lb/ft
Tremec TKO 600 5 speed
1790 lbs.
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03-26-2013 12:27 AM #107
Nick, I got my 1st video up, it is really crappy, but due to your weather I got it up before you, here > My new baby arrived todayBob
427 sbc 526 HP 556 lb/ft
Tremec TKO 600 5 speed
1790 lbs.
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03-26-2013 12:17 PM #108
Bob, I'll head over there and check it out shortly.
I was sitting in the hot rod yesterday while the bomber seats were being fitted for me and I started it up, let it warm up, and then was reving it and just absorbing the sound and impact of this setup. I don't know if my words will convey the feeling which I hope to post up in the near future with videos including better sound quality, but my impression is that it sounds angry and violent and will scare most people. Perfect! Very nice!Nick
Brookville '32 hi-boy roadster
TriStar Pro Star 427 CID
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03-26-2013 01:43 PM #109
When stone cold mine is a bit loud, lumpy, and obnoxious, but once warmed up settles down. Still doesn't like to work hard below 2000 rpm, and after the 383 that takes some getting used to.Bob
427 sbc 526 HP 556 lb/ft
Tremec TKO 600 5 speed
1790 lbs.
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03-26-2013 05:46 PM #110
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Sounds like it's getting there Nick!Ryan
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03-27-2013 06:02 PM #111
I got my finned valve covers and air cleaner installed today. I realize the carb intake is only 5-1/4" diameter but I'm inclined to look for a thicker filter that fits between the top and bottom plate of the air cleaner. Otherwise, I really like how this looks on the motor.
Nick
Brookville '32 hi-boy roadster
TriStar Pro Star 427 CID
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03-27-2013 06:34 PM #112
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Nick, I agree, it looks really nice!Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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03-27-2013 07:45 PM #113
Nick it looks great - but you will possibly have a problem. That little bitty air cleaner element is gonna strangle 427ci. I'm using the same size on my little in comparison 302 and you can feel it start to run out of breath over 4000 rpm. That oval element is from an '80s Pontiac Sunbird/Phenix 4 cyl engine 2.5L/151cid engine --------------------- pretty, but not too good for performance!!
I wish I could find my formula to calculate the right size.Dave W
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03-27-2013 08:31 PM #114
Thanks for that info, Dave. I was on a fence about thinking if it was too small or not. First I figured that the lateral open area was quite a bit more than twice the carb throat diameter (filter is 11.5" X 7.87" X 1.87", carb is 5-1/8" diam. neck) but a few people have now told me it's too small so now I'm doubting my simple area comparison. I found a K&N filter that I think I can make fit and it's 4" thick vs the 1.87" of this one. It's the K&N which is 11.5" X 8.125" X 4"; I may give this a try but if it doesn't work it's a $55 experiment. Or I could look into stacking two of the ones already in there so double the height and lateral area. Other opinions are appreciated.
Btw, you can just about see the huge one I had on my old ZZ4 which I still have so I can use that until I figure out where to go with this one.
Btw #2: I still have these Sanderson Zoomies shown above (with all the baffles not installed yet) that fit the ZZ4 but since they don't fit the new motor I'm thinking of selling these. They're in perfect, barely used condition. Any opinions what they're worth?Last edited by Hot Rod Nick; 03-27-2013 at 08:36 PM.
Nick
Brookville '32 hi-boy roadster
TriStar Pro Star 427 CID
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03-27-2013 08:45 PM #115
Maybe? It breaths pretty good.
Bob
427 sbc 526 HP 556 lb/ft
Tremec TKO 600 5 speed
1790 lbs.
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03-28-2013 05:47 AM #116
Nick, perhaps I missed it, but did you get any pics of the oil pan notching?Robert
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03-28-2013 06:04 AM #117
Nick - there are several of us here that have been 'chartered' to help others spend their hard earned money
If that K&N works, let us know. I've seen that element but really hate to spend my own $$ on a whim I would have to turn my air cleaner 90* due to engine setback and the fact my cleaner is part way under the firewall recess, I would change it out though, dam' the looks.
That convoluted hose is 'gone'Dave W
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03-28-2013 06:19 AM #118
Bob, thanks for that suggestion and it does look like it has huge airflow and very little restriction but I'm going to continue exploring a solution using a "look" I'm digging right now.
Dave, I dumped my "convoluted hose" too; you can see it on the old ZZ4 pic above but now I have "normal" hoses. I know some people like the "dressed" look with that piece but I just don't like it...which is odd since my wife often says I'm convoluted!?!!
I found this picture of what is described as a '37 Ford with a Chevy big block and it has what looks like my air cleaner housing but with this thicker K&N I mentioned above. I think I can make that fit so I'm going for it.
Nick
Brookville '32 hi-boy roadster
TriStar Pro Star 427 CID
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03-28-2013 06:26 AM #119
Robert,
Just to make sure we notched both front corners of the oil pan to clear the headers. Basically we cut each corner top to bottom and then welded a plate into the corner to cover up the missing piece. We've run and heated up the motor to normal op temps and rev'd the piss out of it and no leaks. My fabricator buddy, Rick, is a super good welder so I had the utmost confidence cutting a new oil pan and fixing the clearance problem. While I was there yesterday he showed me a titanium suspension assembly he built which he's selling to the BMW M3 and other hi perf model owners since their rear suspensions are apparently easy to break with hard launches; as you probably know, titanium is tricky to weld and requires cover gas etc. but his bars are very solid.
Here's the only pic I have of the front corners cut and clearing the headers:
Nick
Brookville '32 hi-boy roadster
TriStar Pro Star 427 CID
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03-28-2013 06:50 AM #120
Thanks, Looks good. Was just wondering how it got sorted out. I had to modify the oil pan for the 55 I'm working on, moving the engine forward 3/4" for firewall clearance creates problems elsewhere I was just curious to see how others resolve similar issues.Robert
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