Thread: 39 Ford (Coast to Coast) Rebuild
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03-18-2014 08:57 PM #91
Step 5 is the power steering pump, but that is wide open. I just ordered the power rack and the hoses, so I'll wait on those to install the pump.
The entire point of this was to move the alt and AC comp down to fit a normal air filter. (plus to add power steering) The way I see it, when you pop the hood you want to see the engine. Not the Alt, AC comp or belts. I wish I could have fit a serp belt system in the space, but that wasn't going to happen. There just wasn't enough space.
Below is the filter I think will stay on the throttle body.
Air filter.jpgLast edited by autotec; 03-18-2014 at 09:36 PM.
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03-18-2014 09:07 PM #92
And I just want to say thanks to Roger for giving me that great link for the front dress kit from Rocky Hinge. In all of my searches, they never came up. I will be ordering from them again. I'm all for supporting the little guys. They had the only kit that fit in the space I had. Thanks again!
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03-18-2014 09:33 PM #93
While I was going through my pictures, I noticed this one. This build only had a 80 amp alternator, but as you can see, it was enough to overload the wire that goes back to the battery. This car was wired wrong, the battery was fed from the fuse box. The wire in question is 8 guage, but there will be a separate 4 guage feed between the alt and battery after seeing this. (I think the new alt is a 120 amp) Electrical fires are very bad.
Alt Wire.jpg
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03-18-2014 11:10 PM #94
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03-19-2014 09:11 PM #95
I usually leave the names of the places I've ordered things from out of the posts, but this was different. In all of my years of doing this, I have never received a phone call telling me I might have forgotten something.
I am a engineer by trade, so my days are filled with meetings, focus groups, and other well ummm time wasters. I have very little time to make phone calls for my personal projects, so I was just in aww to get one from Yogi's.
I ordered all of the parts to install power steering in this project, but I forgot two small bushings. This would have kept the project at a standstill for the entire weekend. So when I got a phone call from them asking if I needed these two cheap parts too, I was very happy. They could have just sent the order that I requested, but they seemed to know what I was doing. That is customer service. I wish I got the same service everywhere.
Thank you Yogi's.
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03-19-2014 10:23 PM #96
I like that.
You gave credit where it was due in those last few posts, to both Yogis and Roger.
Not too many would think of doing that.
Roger's a bloody good bloke for helping where he can; and has helped me out too from behind the scenes in personal e-mails.
Okay, everybody can now take a bow!
Last edited by johnboy; 03-19-2014 at 10:26 PM.
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03-20-2014 09:57 AM #97
Lynn
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03-20-2014 10:30 AM #98
Like to hear about awesome customer support, and to give those companies a boost when I can too. For me Summit is the best for my general parts needs. One day I called them to ask a question about a part I bought and how to install it, the guy said we don't sell that(then I remembered I bought it elsewhere!), he then said," I've gotta friend there, so hang on one minute", in a few minutes he was back on the line with the help I needed I couldn't believe how helpful he was!" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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03-21-2014 09:18 PM #99
Well I recieved the power rack and all of the supporting hardware today, but I ran into a problem. It seems the front sway bar is in the way of installing the power rack. Both want to take up the same space. It was a really tight fit with the manual rack, but I didn't think the power rack would be much different. But it is. I ordered the offset bushings so I could move the rack up and down, but that still wasn't enough.
I already planned on removing the rear sway bar due to the bad construction, but I planned on keeping the front. But now I'm not so sure. I can only guess on the weight of the car (about 2600 lbs), but it has to be pretty light. The spring rate on all 4 coilovers are pretty high, so I'm not so sure it needs the sway bars.
I guess the question is how many of you run them? I have never left them off before, but the cars I build usually see the race track. This car never will. Looking over the suspenion design, there is so much bind, plus add in the spring rates and the low weight, and I'm not sure they are even doing anything. Leaving them off might even make the ride better. Any advice would be great.
Thanks, Justin
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03-22-2014 04:37 AM #100
I'd say pull it and test it... I think you'll need it, but.... maybe not?
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03-22-2014 07:00 AM #101
The Oze Rod Shop that's builds similar cars, like mine, does not use them. When I ordered by roller, I asked about adding some sway bars, but they no longer offer them. The original Oze shop in Canada offered them as an option. I've driven my car without them, and it seems OK, but I haven't tried any real fast corners. Obviously, if fast cornering is desired, it's best to keep the sway bars. I have a Flaming River power rack on my car. With the Cadillac CTS pump, it steers effortlessly.
Would it be possible to keep the bars if the mounts were altered, like dropped a little lower or moved forward a bit?
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03-22-2014 02:10 PM #102
Depends on driving style of the owner, if he's just going to putz around in the car he'll never know if it has a sway bar or not... But even at that, any sort of quick lane change or an unexpected curve on an unfamiliar road and the sway bar is right up there someplace between essential and mandatory!!!!
Heidt's, TCI, Fatman and any number of companies selling the IFS conversions should offer a sway bar for them.. If not, IMO you're dealing with the wrong company anyway!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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03-22-2014 02:42 PM #103
If you already own all the parts, find a way to make it all fit. To my way of thinking the front one is critical. I wouldn't want to be without it.
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03-30-2014 09:50 PM #104
After thinking about it, I had to agree. After 2 days of playing with 3 different racks, plus different bushings, spacers and lines, I think I found a combination that fits. (with the front sway bar)
I'll end up with the rack from Yogi's, but I'll have to bend new lines from the spool to the rack. The ones that came with the rack, ummm, are just, ummm, crappy. And that is saying it nicely. I could return the rack, but new hard lines are easily made. In Yogi's defence, this was the cheaper rack. I just want them to look nice.
Just in case anyone is building a Coast-to-Coast car, the combo that fits with the front sway bar for power steering is....
1. 84 Mustang rack and pinion (15 1/5 center to center)
2. Offset bushings set to raise the rack up as far as it can go.
3. No spacers between the rack and crossmember.
4. Fabricate the hard lines to run on top of the rack.
I have yet to remake the hard lines, but it will fit. Below are the pictures. Sorry about the pictures, but it was getting late.
PS 1.jpgPS 2.jpg
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03-30-2014 09:56 PM #105
Good job on the fitment issues, perseverance pays off!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
Thank you Roger. .
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