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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    I just noticed that your going to use a single outlet master.. or is this not going on the road?

    That wouldn't be allowed here in the state of Massachusetts with our new rules. For a street vehicle, it has to be a dual reservoir / dual discharge master cylinder.

    Curious if it's the same "over there"?
    I noticed the same thing this morning as I was reading through the latest. I don't believe that it would be a "not allowed" issue for me here in Kansas, but all of the roller packages have dual circuit MC's installed.

    Nice work on the brakes, bracing, firewall, etc, etc, etc as usual, Steve. I look forward to your updates and often learn from your photos and descriptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rspears View Post
    I noticed the same thing this morning as I was reading through the latest. I don't believe that it would be a "not allowed" issue for me here in Kansas, but all of the roller packages have dual circuit MC's installed.

    Nice work on the brakes, bracing, firewall, etc, etc, etc as usual, Steve. I look forward to your updates and often learn from your photos and descriptions.
    Under "our" new rules, If it was an original vehicle then it would be fine, for an all new build - nope.. must meet the new standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    I just noticed that your going to use a single outlet master.. or is this not going on the road?

    That wouldn't be allowed here in the state of Massachusetts with our new rules. For a street vehicle, it has to be a dual reservoir / dual discharge master cylinder.

    Curious if it's the same "over there"?
    Lots of classics running single circuit brakes here, to be honest I have run them for years without any problems but I always use all new parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadster32 View Post
    Lots of classics running single circuit brakes here, to be honest I have run them for years without any problems but I always use all new parts.
    Thanks for the reply. And that's the rub! A "classic" for us has to be original. Your car will be an assembled vehicle and need to meet the current standards. So you can't run a single reservoir/discharge master cylinder.

    If that was an original Willys from the 40's you'd be fine.

    Thanks for the chat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    I just noticed that your going to use a single outlet master.. or is this not going on the road?

    That wouldn't be allowed here in the state of Massachusetts with our new rules. For a street vehicle, it has to be a dual reservoir / dual discharge master cylinder.

    Curious if it's the same "over there"?
    Sounds like you guys have similar laws up there.. I haven't looked in our book,,but I'm quite sure we have to use a dual circuit master cylinder in our new builds as well.. I used a 94 Mustang unit on the F100,when I rebuilt that,,mainly cos the old original was poked,,and I had the Mustang unit on hand..
    Steve,,looking good,man.. You gunna have a fair bit of room in that cab,are ya?? Curious to see how you fit in there..You are a similar height to me aren't you??
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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    Thanks for the reply. And that's the rub! A "classic" for us has to be original. Your car will be an assembled vehicle and need to meet the current standards. So you can't run a single reservoir/discharge master cylinder.

    If that was an original Willys from the 40's you'd be fine.

    Thanks for the chat.

    This will be regarded as a classic as it's registered 1943

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamin8r View Post
    Sounds like you guys have similar laws up there.. I haven't looked in our book,,but I'm quite sure we have to use a dual circuit master cylinder in our new builds as well.. I used a 94 Mustang unit on the F100,when I rebuilt that,,mainly cos the old original was poked,,and I had the Mustang unit on hand..
    Steve,,looking good,man.. You gunna have a fair bit of room in that cab,are ya?? Curious to see how you fit in there..You are a similar height to me aren't you??
    Yes Robin it's nowhere near as tight as I expected, keeping as much as possible of the firewall has helped, I'm 6ft 198lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadster32 View Post
    Yes Robin it's nowhere near as tight as I expected, keeping as much as possible of the firewall has helped, I'm 6ft 198lbs

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    All good.. You got to be comfortable in these things.. pointless building them,,then finding you can only drive for 45 minutes,,give or take,,and having to stop to stretch your body back into shape..
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    More steel framing today, I wanted to tie the inner steel work in to the frame so first job was to make a pair of brackets, and fit to the frame and firewall.










    Next I looked at a problem I have been thinking about for a few days, the problem is on the willys you can't bring the tube frame down to the floor level because there is no recess anywhere for it to fit into, this is my solution, basically a 3 sided box bolted down to the floor and tied into the inner fender panel and also tied into the firewall brackets.








    I also got to make the roll cage front bar bracket that is bolted into the chassis and front outrigger.





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    Looks good,Steve.. All you can do with that situation..But it will be strong..Nice.
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    Very nice work and I like your reinforcement solution as well. Are you going to use stainless for the roll bar/cage too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    Very nice work and I like your reinforcement solution as well. Are you going to use stainless for the roll bar/cage too?
    No I will use 2" CDS for the cage, to use stainless would be very expensive as the only stainless to use is seamless and its big $$$

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    Had a break from steeling out today and decided to mount the bed instead, the back of the bed needs lowering about another 1/2" but its same as a stock Willys and pretty much on the money









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    Looking very nice!!!
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