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Originally Posted by daveS53

Oops, I goofed. I made a better picture with a proper text to go with it. The allowable deflection from a straight line, or 180 degrees, is only 30. That makes the maximum angle 150 degrees, not 120. The card on the right is just like the one that the builder is holding and it's much too steep to work properly. You'd need a double u-joint for that angle.

Well Dave, you need another edit because it's the card on the LEFT that matches with the one in the photo, and all of the cards are a bit off because Borgeson says the maximum angle is 35 degrees, not 30, but what's five degrees between friends....

Also, for what it's worth, according to the guy in customer service at Borgeson, as long as you install the steering universals at or less than the maximum 35 degrees (70 degrees for a double) there is no concern with added friction in turning or return to center. Borgeson has no concern with an installation that has every u-joint at 35 degrees or less. As I said earlier, I'm not concerned at all with the angle of my center joint, and I have no concerns with it operating as intended at nominal 33 degrees.

Angles can be deceiving when viewed small, a 30° angle projected out can be steeper than you thing it is (driving a mountain road will prove that). My point is simply taken the distance from the steering wheel to the joint, you'll quickly see any steeper angle and the steering wheel could be out of the roof line.
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Originally Posted by rspears

Well Dave, you need another edit because it's the card on the LEFT that matches with the one in the photo, and all of the cards are a bit off because Borgeson says the maximum angle is 35 degrees, not 30,

Roger, If I remember correctly along about 1999-2000 Borgeson switched their u-joints slightly so they can be run at 35 degrees, they use to be 30 degrees as my '32 has the old style 30 degree joints and my 37 has the new style joints. The old style used a stainless button head screw to retain the shafts and now they are staked (I believe that's correct and not vice versa) they did this when Flaming Rivers came out and dropped the cost quite a bit, I remember as they came out right after I paid the higher costs for less angle joints, kind like my luck runs most of the time! Old literature has the old angle listed and not the new I think. Best of luck and keep up the good work! Matthyj

Originally Posted by rspears

Well Dave, you need another edit because it's the card on the LEFT that matches with the one in the photo, and all of the cards are a bit off because Borgeson says the maximum angle is 35 degrees, not 30,

Roger, If I remember correctly along about 1999-2000 Borgeson switched their u-joints slightly so they can be run at 35 degrees, they use to be 30 degrees as my '32 has the old style 30 degree joints and my 37 has the new style joints. The old style used a stainless button head screw to retain the shafts and now they are staked (I believe that's correct and not vice versa) they did this when Flaming Rivers came out and dropped the cost quite a bit, I remember as they came out right after I paid the higher costs for less angle joints, kind like my luck runs most of the time! Old literature has the old angle listed and not the new I think. Best of luck and keep up the good work! Matthyj

Yeah Matthyj, My luck generally runs the same as yours, buying what I want/need and then right after finding "the deal". Like buying a double-u, having it in the stash while fussing with the layout for the last six months, and then finding the detail that they only accept returns within 90 days for anything other than warranty claims.... Oh well, someone will need a SS 3/4 DDx3/4DD u-joint at some point, right, and then they'll get "the deal".

Finally got some tires mounted on the wheels Cragar sent for their calendar contest, and stuck them on the '32 roadster. The only thing missing is a set of 50th Anniversary Center Caps to top them off just right, linking to the 2015 Award!! Thanks, Cragar Wheel!! I love them! These will be an alternating set, with the steelies & dog dish caps sharing duty, depending on the mood....

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What size rims and tires did you use, Roger? I'm sure you mentioned it, but I'm too lazy to read the whole thread again.

Originally Posted by Henry Rifle

What size rims and tires did you use, Roger? I'm sure you mentioned it, but I'm too lazy to read the whole thread again.

The rears are 17x9's running 265/70R17 Savero GTR's, and the fronts are 15x4.5's running 145R15's from Nankang. I'm hoping that the Nankangs are superior to the Coker Firestone F560's. When I went to the Cragar specs, in the Classic S/S wheels that I was offered they don't offer 16's. They still have 14's, and 15's have the most options on sizes, plus a few 17's. The best fit I could get for what I wanted was the sizes I picked.

My experience with the Nankings is pretty good. On the other hand, I gave away my Coker F560's with less than 2 miles on them. They wouldn't balance for crap. Plus, I got another inch of drop on the front with the Nankings.

Roger, that looks really nice! It looks fast sitting there!

This was "tail light Tuesday", and I got a pair of '39 mini Zephyr lights mounted on the Deuce.

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I also pulled out the seats and re-drilled all of the holes to shift them outboard ~3/8" each to gain a bit of room in the middle, and started fitting the e-brake handle to fit between the seats. I'd made reinforcement plates to locate the seat bolts, and to also spread the load so that if the seats pull loose in a collision it will have to pull through most of the floor pan. Decided to tie the two middle plates together, so that the floor pan will be reinforced for the e-brake handle, too, since I have to tweak them anyway to spread the bolts.

Also saw a front frame boxing plate idea that I really liked on a car featured in a Street Rodder mag from a few months back, and I think I'll adapt that with an access plate to get to headlight stand bolts and headlight wiring. Pictures to follow if the idea pans out....

I do like those Zephyr like lights Roger, will you use the top part as indicator and the bottom tail light/stop light ? Or is that not able to be accomplished with those lights ?

Originally Posted by Whiplash23T

I do like those Zephyr like lights Roger, will you use the top part as indicator and the bottom tail light/stop light ? Or is that not able to be accomplished with those lights ?

These are an LED unit, and there is no segregation of top & bottom. They have two levels of illumination, bright and blinding, and if you wire them for the pulse feature they do a three pulse "strobe" effect each time you press the brake, then go steady "ON". The '48 Chev pair that I used on the '33 are the same manufacturer, and they are super.

Roger, the lights look really nice on there. What brand are they?