it is interesting, there are now shows on tv that weren't previously considered worthless to networks, but they run the gamut from real informative to advertising and soap opera style. for instance

Hunting shows, almost all the ones I see are more advertisement than hunting, when they are hunting they are fenced hunts or in areas of the country where they have raised feed special to bring the deer in, they are almost tame, and you can see the highway in the background.

Tattoo shows- Miami Ink and Inked (maybe off air now). Miami is good, has some drama but has a lot of tattoo work as well. inked was just a soap opera, which was disappointing as some of the artists were really good and rather than showing the big pieces they worked on and their skill they focused on the idiot shop helpers and register girls

on the car/bike stuff. I like American Chopper, i like the interaction between the family, to me it is better than any sitcom. I have learned a few things watching it I think, and I like seeing some of the work. Do I think they are great fabricators like Jesse James? No. Do I like the designs Paulie comes up with? Mostly no. oh, and Mike is my favorite character (maybe cause he reminds me of me).

I have also learned a bit watching the show about boyd, but I don't watch it anymore, he treats his employees like crap and is an asshole in general.

I watch Foose, he rocks. What is this Chop, Cut, Rebuild show? I also have Muscle Car set to record and watch it on my DVR. Have any of you seen that? I think it is the best show out there, it just shows car stuff, no pranks on people, no time wasted with unveils. and it shows A LOT of things. body work, engine, frame, you name it.

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