Thread: Hmmm. Did I do it again????

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Originally Posted by 48fordnut

no disrespect. I have built engs for a long time, first were olds,then chevy, then ford.Never have i lost a bearing or oil pump. I scuffed one piston in a 645 hp dyno run with a 351 w. bent a valve in a 8000 rpm 302 drag motor from a missed shift. I take undue care on assy.Like in a hospital. Is it luck, or just attention to detail? I am there on first start up, and don't take any bs about what to do.Its probably luck. Having said that I might go buy a lottery ticket. lol. OBTW, never built a bbc.

500 hundred engines without a camshaft problem,a bearing problem,or loss of an oil pump.
I know of no one with this good of a record.
I really find it odd that you have never built a BBC with 500 engines to your credit.
I am going to have to get my can of BS spray out again.
Are you Scooter's dad??

Originally Posted by erik erikson

500 hundred engines without a camshaft problem,a bearing problem,or loss of an oil pump.
I know of no one with this good of a record.
I really find it odd that you have never built a BBC with 500 engines to your credit.
I am going to have to get my can of BS spray out again.
Are you Scooter's dad??

oh no you did not say that i was thinking that was abit of a BS job how come you do not call me out on my 730 cid erik you know i am full of it

Originally Posted by 48fordnut

... I have never lost a lifter or cam lobe ,with over 500 engs built. This will continue long after I am gone.

There is some reason to be skeptical about this. Assuming your chances of not having any valve train or other issues affecting the valve train in 500consecutive builds is 99.9%, the chances of the 501 consecutive build not having an issue is only 60.6%.

I guess numerically it could happen or not depending on the parts etc. But given what I see and hear about this today with materials and oils etc I would be willing to bet the odds are not even this good.

I'm not trying to make a point here, just looking at it numerically .........

Kitz

i have big blocks that run up to 8000 rpms they say together just fine the sbc engine just do not eat cams like a big block chevy will. i have seen them built by some of the best engine builders and had some for me wipe out to that is why i use roller cams in all my builds. the 454 where wiping stock cams out when new this with added spring lbs make the cams go alot faster i build big blocks and is common .as far as how many builds i have done i never counted

you do the head count with receipts. I didn't realize the bbc had the problem. This is not new but different, the sbc has helped itself with lifters with a tiny orffice in the face, for better oiling. As you well know the lifters only get splash oiling, thats why its so important to preoil. I guess my engs have so much clearance that the lobes get plenty of oil. If a new eng turns over for more than 5 secs there is a problem. that is the way i look at it

no just the 5.500 crank someday it will be here callies is about 3 month behind the good news is that oliver makes the steel rod in 7.500 so maybe i can get it the 7.600 rods and not wait so long for customs ? then i just need to rob a bank

Erick, I have never built a blown, or nitrious eng. i have built many street engs, and stand behind what i say. Just because you don't know some one that has dosen't make it not so. end of discusion for me.

Okay, you three, did any of you read the title to this thread. I am not trying to put any of you down, But for crying out loud take your argument about who knows the most about cams or motors to the appropriate thread.

Originally Posted by Oldf100fordman

Okay, you three, did any of you read the title to this thread. I am not trying to put any of you down, But for crying out loud take your argument about who knows the most about cams or motors to the appropriate thread.

yes i did ..did you read my first post on this form did it get off path yes but ? denny may or may not come back i think this has been posted .what started the deal with denny was crane or comp cam form .i would be the first to be happy to see him come back .but that would be up to him . i did not start any thing about building 500 engines with no failures if he did thats great .

Originally Posted by 48fordnut

Erick, I have never built a blown, or nitrious eng. i have built many street engs, and stand behind what i say. Just because you don't know some one that has dosen't make it not so. end of discusion for me.

I have built engines and built heads for a living for over twenty years.
What you are saying is not possible there are just to many things that can and do go wrong.
I doubt by your post you have ever built any race engines.
Because everyone that builds race engines has a customer that always thinks 8,200 rpm's is good then 8,800 rpm's is better.
This really reminds me a lot of the old gasser 196/Scooter and his 12,500 rpm sbc.
This reminds me also of dad's buddies that are now in the 60 age group telling stories to some of the young guys that come in the shop after hours and talk about all the hp they had back in 1965 and I have to take them over to the flow bench and explain to them there is no way that they had a 700 hp 327.
A stock double hump head just won't flow enough air to support this.
I am not the only one who broke out the "old can" of BS spray.
After all it is your story and some young kids may or may not believe it.
I was born at night but not last night.

Hmmm. Did I do it again????

By all appearances . . . yep.

It's ok Duane, I started the thread, don't know if Denny is sneaking in and reading a bit or not. As others have said, his choice!!!!

As for building 500 engines with 0 failures. That's a lot of builds. Maybe if they're just plan old rebuilds and stock engines..... but just the law of averages on getting a defective part from a supplier makes that even seem.....well, a long, long string of good luck!!!! If it's performance engines, I would say anyone with that kind of skill must be making mega bucks in one of the pro engine shops... I've been hot rodding for 40 years, doubt I've built 1/10 that many engines, let alone that many with no failures. Heck, had one come unglued on the dyno first pass last year.... Heck, I doubt if any of the reman engine shops have that kind of record... But hey, it's your story, tell it any way you want. This is a public forum so I would say that if your engine building skills and luck are that good, you should get hold of Bill and put an ad on here promoting your perfect record!!!

Denny,

I'm glad you didn't leave. Who else could I argue with about timmed vs. manifold vacuum?

never said my sbc would go that high. i said they can. i shift at 7-7500 didnt know how 7 became 12,5

At the risk of beating a dead horse....................I'm glad to see ya back here Denny, you have helped me out a couple times and helped me see the obvious a time or two. I appreciate it.