Thread: erik and others whats the going rate??

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well i thought there was a way to make your own 427 by switching cranks? yes i ahve seen alot of guys take 454 .125 over and .100 over

On the 454 from what I was told .060 Max . The 369/402 and the truck blocks can go more . I did know a guy that made a 440ci out of a 427 BB . But today with all the stroker kits I am sure you can make a much larger engine out of a 396 .

so pat, what would it be costing to make a 396/402/427 run some nice low 11's in a 63 nova? thats what im after this is uncharted territory for me. and can you make a tall decker run good? i hear alot of people saying how there trash well you know me i like other peoples trash not a every weekend race car and id like to be able to hop in it and drive somewhere <yeah yeah gas mpg oh > and then go pop 11's, you guys and your pump gas stuff can it be done? without aftermarket heads! was thinking either strip dominator or tunnel ram goal is to drive it to arlington or shelton <maybe even bakersfield> either this year or next for the old time drag show car will have dana 60 <already got with 4:10 posi probably swap that out for some 373's> with 4 speed. <here come the procrastination segment i say this year or next will probably be 2-3 >

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

so pat, what would it be costing to make a 396/402/427 run some nice low 11's in a 63 nova? thats what im after this is uncharted territory for me. and can you make a tall decker run good? i hear alot of people saying how there trash well you know me i like other peoples trash not a every weekend race car and id like to be able to hop in it and drive somewhere <yeah yeah gas mpg oh > and then go pop 11's, you guys and your pump gas stuff can it be done? without aftermarket heads! was thinking either strip dominator or tunnel ram goal is to drive it to arlington or shelton <maybe even bakersfield> either this year or next for the old time drag show car will have dana 60 <already got with 4:10 posi probably swap that out for some 373's> with 4 speed. <here come the procrastination segment i say this year or next will probably be 2-3 >

the hardest part is to put the big block in the chevy II i have done headers for them cars with big blocks in them but 11 should not be to hard in a small ligth car and could be done with a iron head 402 but i would like to see a 454 easier to find the tall deck just would be to hard to fit in the car

Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

the hardest part is to put the big block in the chevy II i have done headers for them cars with big blocks in them but 11 should not be to hard in a small ligth car and could be done with a iron head 402 but i would like to see a 454 easier to find the tall deck just would be to hard to fit in the car

What Pat says times two.
I.M.O.,if you use a 454 block you might as well build a 496.

Originally Posted by erik erikson

What Pat says times two.
I.M.O.,if you use a 454 block you might as well build a 496.

well i concur with my colleague in the rat race business if you do this i have alot of very nice used parts i can help you out on like roller cams hippo crower roller lifters and psi springs all this stuff i can save you big$$ on

Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

well i concur with my colleague in the rat race business if you do this i have alot of very nice used parts i can help you out on like roller cams hippo crower roller lifters and psi springs all this stuff i can save you big$$ on

Pat,he said 11's.
At this rate he will have a low 10 sec. car.

car is going to have straight axele <no worrys for clearance > erick, BUDGET just help me build an regular bbc. id be up for a 468 . but the goal is a 427 i sware i hear of guy swapping cranks and making there own poor mans 427 ??

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

car is going to have straight axele <no worrys for clearance > erick, BUDGET just help me build an regular bbc. id be up for a 468 . but the goal is a 427 i sware i hear of guy swapping cranks and making there own poor mans 427 ??

I will do my best to control my-self.

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

car is going to have straight axele <no worrys for clearance > erick, BUDGET just help me build an regular bbc. id be up for a 468 . but the goal is a 427 i sware i hear of guy swapping cranks and making there own poor mans 427 ??

Yes, I'm running 396 crank in 454 block makes 427 (or 439 .060 over). Making high 11's should be easy low 11's with stock/oem heads not so easy?... power from 427 more from high revs, hence the short crank... spin it to 7000 with something like 255/265 duration but heads need to breath, maybe some good stock rect port 454 heads with some port work? $3500 might be a tough budget depending what parts you have laying around and what you can pick up cheap?

Originally Posted by skids72

Yes, I'm running 396 crank in 454 block makes 427 (or 439 .060 over). Making high 11's should be easy low 11's with stock/oem heads not so easy?... power from 427 more from high revs, hence the short crank... spin it to 7000 with something like 255/265 duration but heads need to breath, maybe some good stock rect port 454 heads with some port work? $3500 might be a tough budget depending what parts you have laying around and what you can pick up cheap?

With his 3.73 gear I think he would be better off running a 496.
To use those big port rec. heads he would really have to turn a 427 to make them work correct.

well that would be cool, as of right now the car is being kept at a realtives house till spring when i can do some cleaning and bring it home, but taking notes and learning and collecting parts will make it much easier when it comes home everything will be here at once. like i said, 11's are the goal for when i do wanna go tear it up but id also like it to be able to handle some decent road trips, can you do that on pump gas pat? i just dont know where to start. i keep referring to the older bbc's cause you know me, im a nostalgic

the 454 block with a 366/427 crank would be a good way to fly i know guy that have run in the 11s with the chevy II with about this size engine but you want to run pump gas i would build a flat top 468 454 pistons are EZ to find and better on price

Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

the 454 block with a 366/427 crank would be a good way to fly i know guy that have run in the 11s with the chevy II with about this size engine but you want to run pump gas i would build a flat top 468 454 pistons are EZ to find and better on price

well a bottle of octane boost wouldnt burn my spirits either well when you put a 366 crank in a 454 whats that turn it into ? man i really need to do my homework, hey at least im willing to listen

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

well a bottle of octane boost wouldnt burn my spirits either well when you put a 366 crank in a 454 whats that turn it into ? man i really need to do my homework, hey at least im willing to listen

bore is 4.250 454 block or 427. and any crank 366/427 is 3.760 crank will make a 427 you need 427 pistons and any big block rod for a low buck build would be a stock 6.135 long rod