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Well this fella seems to think we are being mislead............I think he has legitimate concerns......
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...74697167011147

I sat through the whole thing and it left me a few thoughts. How to confirm what he says conclusively,and if the highest elected officials are just in the conspiritors pockets, what can we do about it? Right now I'm very close to putting my home up for sale,due primarily to the price of heating oil going up almost double in the last couple of years. I believe my situation to be the norm and not an isolated case,at least around here. Any other thoughts out there? Hank

Unfortunatly,I think we are the spoke and the axle grease...

Here is a little more on the subject.........
The title of this one is ....Dont Mind The Men Behind The Curtain.

ZEITGEIST, The Movie - Official Release - Part 3 of 3

Pay close attention to this one........

I just recently was able to get high-speed Internet service living in the country. When I click onto new post I thought I would check it out, I couldn't stop watching even though it was pretty long. I am from the time of .20 and .30 per gal. It all makes sense now what has happened over the years. I always thought as much as we all love cars in this Country the price would be reasonable for us to keep driving the big cars.
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Richard

Here is another piece of the puzzle ...............

Free Movies & Documentaries - The Money Trap - How the banks lure you into debt (2006)

And as an extention of this we have to contend with the continuing BS of global warming. Al Gore invented the global warming business because it's simply another way to gain power, and power equals money- both something politicians can't get enough of. For as long as we allow it every a-hole will be associating thier cuase, product, program or philosophy with global warming. And since you don't want to appear unpatriotic you'll fall into that crapstorm of lies and half truths.

Whatever oil is in Alaska should be developed but we have turned over the country to the green weenie movement and believe everything they say. We're basically giving the elk in Alaska a massive area to eat, poop and screw. The extremists have invaded the EPA and wanna make everything off limits to humans, except for a few Sierra Club members. Talk about elitist BS!

And they won't be happy till they juke up the stats on land development to cover almost everywhere with the blanket of "wetlands" or such. If it rains and puddles form once every 6 years on your property and tadpoles or mosquitoes grow, it' a wetlands subject to confiscation and protection by the govt.

An oil pumping station in Alaska is no more intrusive than a postage stamp in relative size to the block you live on. How the hell did the majority of us come to believe it is better to let a bunch of animals almost no one will ever see run wild and dictate economics? If the damned elk are endangered the cost lost in the national economy could afford to buy them the whole state of Rhode Island and send them there.

The green weenies somehow got us to stop building nuke power generation stations because of 3 Mile Island 30+ years ago. Can you imagine how much more we'd know if we'd have been refining nuclear safety from learning after 30 years? Hell even when we actually have plenty of petroleum we don't have enough refineries to process it because of the greenies halting every one from being built in the past 35 years.

All these aholes want is to live in some freaking fairlyland cartoon but they don't want to acknowledge that it takes resources to accomplish their little pipe dream. We only have ourselves to blame cause we gave in to the hippy mofos decades ago.

Here ya go ...A little change from the standard "your killin the planet" jargon.......
Free Movies & Documentaries - The Great Global Warming Swindle (2007)

And the latest one along this line.
Free Movies & Documentaries - Dispatches - The Great Green Smoke Screen (2007)

All this ties together ,its not the left over here and the right over there or on one side politics and the other side religion or you have big oil here and the greenies there ......they are all tied together by the same binding factor...........a ceo may be in charge of a company and have a vision ,but he still has to make descisions based off of whats happening in the "markett" or he will fail..........cant buy high and sell low for very long at all..........and there is the binding factor that ties all these things together,they can be totally unrelated companies and have totally different agaendas,but must rely on the rise and fall of the markett to guide their descisions and thats what makes them vulnerable to a outside influence to guide them in a almost unseen or hard to understand manner...........we are all influenced by different things ,but those "things" are all influenced by the same thing and that "thing" is controllable.......

Hate to say it fellas, but I don't believe our country will be Top Dog for too much longer. Every great civilization in history came to power, flourished for a time, then they became greedy, depraved, and decadent, then they collapsed. I think we will suffer the same fate. I hope I'm wrong though!

They say "Those who choose to forget the past, are doomed to repeat it." Go ask a teenager anything about any historic event, and watch them get that glazed look on their face. They can't tell you who invented the light bulb, but they can tell you anything about Paris, or Brittany.

I agree, Sinister.....
I was talking to my 15 year old Daughter and we were watching a documentary on TV called "Hitlers Henchmen".

She comments....."Oh Yeah, Hitler. Wasn't he one of those war guys, Dad"?

Yeah, that's what our kids know. How is she going to learn about her future when she knows nothing about the past.

Dogtag

i think ill comment of this situation now.

when i was 6 years old i began my dive into history 1st off i learned everything i could about the titanic sinking, then the 1937 explosion of the hindenburg in lakehurst NJ, then around 8 or so, i started diving into war history i am still into it big time mostly vietnam and ww1 surprisingly,some ww2 and korea <the forgotten war> i try to talk to as many vets as i can, but its hard to approach them and ask them about some of the crappiest times of there life ya know?. when i graduated i was awared the schools best history student award <everybody in class would ask me the answers !> i got good grades mostly because the last part of the history class was based ont he 50's 60's and 70's i remember calling into a radio show when i was 18 and the topic was the JFK conspiracy and whats going on with kids these days, needless to say they were quite shocked when i publicly denounced my generation for being a bunch of pot smoking video gaming idiots who needed to put the bongs and controllers down and get a job and start taking roles in there community, i even stated what ever happened to "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" and i told them my thoughts on the jfk assassination, the host was completely shocked and asked how i came about these opinions, i simply said i read alot of history, and pay attention to adults. now i know some of you were working when you were 6 and 7! i know i was. i helped my dad in the tow trucks, shoveling snow, mowing the yard, learned how to change a tire when i was 7, heck when i was 7 or 8 i had an old 3 wheeled bicycle the back was just the right size for a cooler and i live across the street from a park with 4 baseball diamonds so i made a few bucks that summer i helped my dad start his own towing company that lased about 12 years. and when i say i helped i helped. i didnt just go for a ride. i remember coming home when i was 9 years old and my feet were so cold i sware they were just cubes of ice. we ran our butts off 12-14 hour days. and when school got out hed pick me up and id ride with him till 8 or 9 at night. in the summer it was towing by week and drag racing every single saturday & sunday.<work hard and play ahrd> i learned work at an early age. i know that is a rarity these days and im glad i know how to work hard. my people skills are something to be desired but ive had alot of problems that have caused them as well. well ok ill get off this soapbox now but i jsut had to say something!! and in closing, if the kids dont learn our history, they are doomed to repeat it.

Getting back to our original subject, I would love to be able to think this williams guy is correct in what he says. Unfortunately,anyone can publish a book and claim to be in on priveledged information.If there is that much oil up there, it would be very difficult to keep it secret. Any other thoughts on this subject? Hank

You gotta know that everybody doesn't know everthing even if they are high up in govenrment with a title. The shadow government of non-elected individuals have always been at work to really make things happen while the politicians put on a show.

Item- when FDR died in April 1945 Harry Truman, then vice president, did not know about the Manhattan Project- for non-historic folks, that's the A-bomb. Biggest secret of the 20th century and a scant handful in Washington knew about it.

Military planners went about their merry way laying out strategic battle plans as they had with troops and equipment numbers on previous islands in the Pacific. Generals and Chiefs of Staff had no idea what was coming.

Had Europe drawn out longer the 1st bomb was going to Hitler.

Originally Posted by Twitch

Military planners went about their merry way laying out strategic battle plans as they had with troops and equipment numbers on previous islands in the Pacific. Generals and Chiefs of Staff had no idea what was coming.
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Yeh, and we won that one. As Chuzoo says to Highway we're " 0-1-1".

Hell, the nazis were about 3 - 6 months away from jet technology at the end of the war. Had they only that much lead, then they would have developed aircraft which could operate over our aircrafts' ceiling, and with range in excess of ours. In other words, they were 3 - 6 months away from COMPLETE AIR SUPERIORITY. Even without the A bomb, they were that close to winning the great war.

I have only recently started listening to the 'conspiracy theories'. I guess one has to get out of his comfort zone before he can accept the possibility that his country which he has fought for, and cherishes, does perhaps not have its peoples' welfare at its top priority.

Seems to me that the dumbing down of our society is proceeding quite well. Anyone whom is particularly educated in any variety of subjects is viewed upon as a crackpot. Comment that you would like to make positive changes in the world and you'll be asked if you are serving cool aid.

For years I have been trying to figure out money. I relly don't understand it, and have never met anyone whom could adequately explain it. The thing about the oil pricing ( in dollars ) I think helps fill in a major piece of the puzzle. The part about the bankers conspiring to enact a central bank is another major piece.

I'll keep piecing together the puzzle. Problem is, the more pieces I find, the more insecure I become.

Originally Posted by firebird77clone

I'll keep piecing together the puzzle. Problem is, the more pieces I find, the more insecure I become.

On that note, here is some good viewing on that subject.
Free Movies & Documentaries - The Secret (2006)

I had to watch this one a couple of times to really let it sink in ,its pretty thought provoking and one tends to drift off in thought during the film,...hence the repeat veiwing.....

If you really think about it , your state of mind plays a big role in how we react to certain things ,then there is a good chance our state of mind influences how life reacts to us............