Thread: Holley goes belly up
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02-12-2008 10:51 AM #1
Holley goes belly up
Filed bankrupt yesterday..........
GM chimed in ,I wonder if ford and the others will cover it up awhile longer......
Meaning I bet alot of em lost money last year and ford and the rest are in the same boat as GM and Holley.....when the electric and hydro cars bust out in 2009 ,I bet more of em loose out ,after all why should one go with ford or chevy on a electric car they have no more exsperiance than anyone else ,its hard to break out with a new car line based on the internal combustion engine ,there are proven companies who make them with a loyal following .....who has a track record on the electric car......pretty much wide open.the tesla car looks mighty good ,but at 80000 dollars is little pricey.
I think alot of the big ones are on thier way out ...you see any development of new electric cars coming from the big boys or hydro...? I think they know the jig is up the news is out ,they finally found them.............It looks like they think we will just keep burning gas when we can get better performance and longer life from electric....the tesla car has only 8 moving mechanical parts ....can you say reduced wear and extended life...its like a radio ,I have a 50 year old transitor radio that works like new,there is vitually nothing to wear out.Last edited by shawnlee28; 02-12-2008 at 11:02 AM.
Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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02-12-2008 12:32 PM #2
how does holley go belly up, when they own so many good selling companys???? man this is what the influx of asian parts gets you.
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02-12-2008 12:43 PM #3
That or they are really not in bankruptcy as thier porfolio suggests ,but rather they are welching on the debt under the guise of bankruptcy,playing the system...only bad part is the money they spent did not just materialize and now that they have filed bankruptcy it will not just evaporate either...someone gets stuck with no money from this other than holley is the reality of this,basically another exapmle of robbin peter to pay paul.
I bet they use this to x any retiremnt packages and 401k over head they have and cut medical coverage for those already retired....
I have been self employed and have never had medical ,dental, retiremnt ,401k, paid vacations etc.I work and get paid for my service...end of story...but I have many friends who have worked for the retirement or 401k and had it disappear or get greatly reduced,even the union retirees are starting to get cuts and reduced medical packages after retirement or the medical plan goes way up in price to the point of it no longer being a wise choice over over no medical or private medical..........Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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02-12-2008 04:12 PM #4
Originally Posted by gassersrule_196
Our Company attended over 200 car shows last year only 6 of those shows showed an increase in cars. People are staying home more and holding on to their money a little tighter.
Holley will come out of his OK but will take a few years to get out of it an dthe debts to be pushed out for a while. Many times you will see someone else jump in with a influx of money to get them on their feet.Last edited by iceburgh; 02-12-2008 at 07:44 PM.
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02-12-2008 04:25 PM #5
They filed Chapter 11 which is reorg and gives them protection from creditors for some period.
Chapter 7 is belly up and liquidation.
BIG difference.
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02-12-2008 04:51 PM #6
Lets see.....
...increased popularity of fuel injection.....decline in use of modern perfomance carbs on hot rods, and customs.....popularity of imports for young enthusiasts.....downturn in economy.....seems like they could have difficulty.Last edited by HOTRODPAINT; 02-12-2008 at 05:26 PM.
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02-12-2008 05:17 PM #7
holley some time ago purchase Weiand Lunati and B&M blowers so they just do not do carbs .holley i am sure are getting hit from barry grant and other the carb cam cranks off shore stuff .but there stuff is coming from over there to the last set of new holley bowls did not say made in the usaLast edited by pat mccarthy; 02-12-2008 at 05:28 PM.
Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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02-12-2008 05:28 PM #8
Chapter 11 is a long ways from belly up.... For many companies, just another way of conducting business.... Down turn in the economy, bad business practices, competition go better???? Probably a bit of all of the above, anyway I doubt any of us consumers will notice anything different about the way they conduct business or parts availability....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-12-2008 08:09 PM #9
i belive its just a restructering tactic the company i work for the last 25 years has done the same thing ..
Age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm.
Kenny
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02-12-2008 08:17 PM #10
Originally Posted by gassersrule_196
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02-12-2008 08:20 PM #11
Originally Posted by erik eriksonIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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02-12-2008 08:23 PM #12
lunati b&m arent they owned by holley to? scat cranks lunaiti cranks. hmm ??? you 2 are impossible
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02-12-2008 08:28 PM #13
Originally Posted by pat mccarthy
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02-12-2008 08:32 PM #14
Originally Posted by gassersrule_196Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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02-12-2008 08:33 PM #15
i was beinr sarcastic guess it didnt work
Yep. And I seem to move 1 thing and it displaces something else with 1/2 of that landing on the workbench and then I forgot where I was going with this other thing and I'll see something else that...
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