Thread: MPG, then verses now.

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I found a website that has all the makes of cars, and their advertised mpg, and their tested mpg. Me and the wife were checking out all the cars to see who has the best, and we decided to see some older model cars, to compare. We looked at the 1985 models, and found that every car made got better mpg, than any car made after 2000! Even cars like the cutlass was getting better than 20mpg back then, i would think with our modern technology, we should be at least 25% better now!! Check it out www.feuleconomy.gov

One thing my Dad told me. Dont always believe what you read or hear..
On a side not since were talking about gas. Just seen a show where they said that gas companies purposely (for profit) do not adjust fuel cost in warmer areas due to the expantion and contraction of gas with changes in temp. In colder climates (up north) you get more fuel mileage with the same gas???

Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver

One thing my Dad told me. Dont always believe what you read or hear..
On a side not since were talking about gas. Just seen a show where they said that gas companies purposely (for profit) do not adjust fuel cost in warmer areas due to the expantion and contraction of gas with changes in temp. In colder climates (up north) you get more fuel mileage with the same gas???

I did a thread on this subject!!

I had a 1986 Honda CRX HF, with a 5 spd and a 1.5L engine that got 55 hwy, 45 city. That is better than any Honda (and most all other cars) today. Only the Honda Insight (2 seat hybrid) came close and it was discontinued last year. In the early 80's several friends drove VW Rabbits and they all got over 42 mpg. Now it's 20 to 25 years later, so where are the improvements? We should be all getting at least 40 mpg. I guess it's true that the automakers and the oil companies are all in bed together.

I was also reading another thread about the new fuel management systems stating that they were not up to the claims of the car makers , mainly GM???? From a lot of people that had the system they said it was a pain in the a$$ and was just something else to break down.

I know this much, with the prices as high as they are and going up in the spring as they always do, my primary around town transportation this summer is going to be a golf cart!!! Heck, the garage is 20 feet out the back door and the coffee shop is 2 blocks, I don't think I've bought any gas since last fall!!!!!

Then a friend of mine stopped over yesterday, saw Tom's coupe and said we ought to build a super light chassis, Speedway 'glass body and a four cylinder with a 5 speed for power!!! Seems it would be in the 35-40 mpg range down the highway and if the weight is kept below 2,000 pounds would probably be a blast to drive, too!!!!---Just what I needed, more good build ideas!!!!

Ive been looking at the prius hybrid, and it only gets 42mpg! I think its really bad that we get taken this way, gas keeps going up, and the cars get worse!! My 60 falcon got 29mpg. and that was made like 48 years ago.

Originally Posted by hotroddaddy

Ive been looking at the prius hybrid, and it only gets 42mpg! I think its really bad that we get taken this way, gas keeps going up, and the cars get worse!! My 60 falcon got 29mpg. and that was made like 48 years ago.

That would be 42 SLOOOW miles. Probably take 30 minutes to get 60 MPH
Just kidding, but ya you could get 75MPG but there would have to be a special lane made for you..

Must be nice Denny! my toyota truck only gets 14mpg, and its only a six banger!! My buddies f250 gets the same, and its twice the size of mine!!

I dunno how the heck they figure mpg nowdays....
I always thought you divided the number of gallons it took since your
last fill up into the number of miles traveled.

My wife and I have a Prius and everyone pizzes and moans about the
FACT that it doesn't get the mileage advertised.
The're right. Wifie and I get 61 to 64 all the time.

Perhaps we're doing something wrong.......now that I think of it, I'm sure we are otherwise why would the EPA have dropped the supposed mileage down to 45.

I really don't know what to believe....

DT

On a related issue, I mentioned recently that my gas milage had fallen off on my Crown Vic daily driver. Next to last fillup I only got 150 miles on the 15 gallong tank, so 10 mpg average. So last fillup I switched to hi test instead of the regular grade I had been using.

My car is getting ready for a fillup again, but this time I have 225 miles on the same 15 gallon tank! I drive the same places all the time, basically to the shop and to the grocery store (I lead a very dull life ) Nothing changed except moving up to hi test, so my conclusion is that although my car was designed to run on regular, hi test burns more efficiently, or perhaps regular gas has gotten so bad that it is running through my car like water.

Dan has a Honda and he has been complaining too because he normally gets about 36 mpg, but lately has been only getting about 26. Could it be that the gasoline companies are giving us a lower quality product AND CHARGING US MORE????????? No, what was I thinking, they would NEVER do anything underhanded..........slap my wrist for even thinking such a thing.

That would be like the tobacco companies putting something in the tobacco to keep people hooked...........that would never happen either. lol

Don

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

On a related issue, I mentioned recently that my gas milage had fallen off on my Crown Vic daily driver. Next to last fillup I only got 150 miles on the 15 gallong tank, so 10 mpg average. So last fillup I switched to hi test instead of the regular grade I had been using.

My car is getting ready for a fillup again, but this time I have 225 miles on the same 15 gallon tank! I drive the same places all the time, basically to the shop and to the grocery store (I lead a very dull life ) Nothing changed except moving up to hi test, so my conclusion is that although my car was designed to run on regular, hi test burns more efficiently, or perhaps regular gas has gotten so bad that it is running through my car like water.

Dan has a Honda and he has been complaining too because he normally gets about 36 mpg, but lately has been only getting about 26. Could it be that the gasoline companies are giving us a lower quality product AND CHARGING US MORE????????? No, what was I thinking, they would NEVER do anything underhanded..........slap my wrist for even thinking such a thing.

That would be like the tobacco companies putting something in the tobacco to keep people hooked...........that would never happen either. lol

Don

Thats very possible and even more possible would be the gas station itself cheating you....
Proper tune up ,driving habits and correct tire pressure are a few things to looka at when wanting good fuel mileage.

Originally Posted by dogtag

I dunno how the heck they figure mpg nowdays....
I always thought you divided the number of gallons it took since your
last fill up into the number of miles traveled.

My wife and I have a Prius and everyone pizzes and moans about the
FACT that it doesn't get the mileage advertised.
The're right. Wifie and I get 61 to 64 all the time.

Perhaps we're doing something wrong.......now that I think of it, I'm sure we are otherwise why would the EPA have dropped the supposed mileage down to 45.

I really don't know what to believe....

DT

My sis has owned several Geo Metro all have gotten at least 43mpg & as high as 53mpg. The one she has now gets 45-48mpg all the time. Now I know not everyone would drive one but why did the stop making them when everyone is screaming about MPG's....joe

Originally Posted by DennyW

They will call you in for a recall, and change it. I know someone that happened to some time back. It never was the same after. All they would say is that they fixed it to factory specs....

I've heard stories like that all my life - somebody bought a 50's land yacht, brand new, and it was getting something unbelieveable in the mpg department, took it into the dealer for the first tune-up and never saw the same numbers again. The dealership couldn't explain it.



It would seem to me that with all the engineers in Detroit that one of the Big 3........are they still the Big 3?.....would be going for the silver bullet when it comes to alternative-powered vehicles. What about Natural Gas or Propane? They used to be fringe vehicle fuels. Now, no one that I know of has those set-ups and I understand that we have at least 100 years of natural gas in the Gulf.

Could it be that someone, somewhere just isn't interested in the US being energy independent?..........I hate sounding like a conspiracy theorist.

Yep ,unfortunatly ,the world is run by the BOTTOMLINERS and all that counts is the bottom line..............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOy3H4yyocQ