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Denny, WE THE PEOPLE are supposed to be in control of this country. I say "supposed to be" because we are not. The socialists are in control. And they're in control because we have allowed it. We've sat on our collective asses and stayed away from the polls while all the blacks, latinos and other minorities have voted in their favorite socialist because they know that's who is gonna continue to feed them from the public trough.

The only thing we can do LEGALLY is to vote the socialists out of office. The Democrats should change the name of their party to the American Socialist Party, because that's their agenda, SOCIALISM. And socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried when there are more taking than there are giving.

I feel absolutely sick to my stomach over the choice of candidates we have in this coming general election. You haven't seen socialism until Hillary or Barack get into the White House. And I won't vote for McCain. He's soft on the illegal aliens and that's one issue that just fries me. You just watch, one way or another, all the illegals in this country are gonna be blessed with citizenship. Now, I'm like a lot of others, I don't mind people from other countries coming to America to better themselves. I wouldn't be here if my great, great grandfather hadn't come over here many years ago. But he didn't suck off the system, because in those days, there was no system to suck off of. You worked and made your own way or you died of hunger if there was no family to tend to you and give you a hand up. You learned to speak English, because this is an English-speaking country. You didn't attempt to sing the National Anthem in your native language because somebody would have beat hell out of you.

So, the only thing we can do is to VOTE until the system crashes. Then, like I said, you'd better have plenty of powder and lead.

Like Denny said earlier,I don't have much time left to get kicked around.What I am concerned and worried about are my childrens future (not good).I have worked and tried to better myself in order to provide food and shelter for my family.The American Way is no longer visible.All I see is the Leeches eating away at that American Dream.The people that are Leeching (as said earlier)are the ones voting in the socialist.I heard only 26% of Texas' registered voters voted in the 2008 primary.Our welfare in Texas is second to California.We will be a welfare state by 2025, based on the current welfare system.The prisions are full and they are talking of no prision term for some drug offenses.I don't think the leaders of this country really see the problems that are plaguing this country.The majority of the present generation want to start at the top,and not work their way up.

Jobs are leaving this country by the thousands.Companies can't hire enough talented people to fill their requirements.We import more goods than we export and most of the imported goods are junk.Our education system is falling behind other countries.China will have the USA under their grasp if things don't change soon.

Politicians are sitting on their fannies and letting this all happen.We need more than change in Washington,we need the people to send a message to the socialist (Vote Them Out).

Ok, so we can blame the politicians and everything is their fault....


NOW WHAT????????

Problem is everybody complains, then pretty much forgets about it and nothing gets done, nothing changes.... Looks like we're getting exactly what we deserve.....

Originally Posted by techinspector1

.. Those who can vote in this country have discovered they can vote themselves the keys to the treasury via electing socialists..

Socialist?? I have to respectfully disagree. The right wing has been in control for over a decade now(congress, senate, presisdential office for almost 8 years). Oil was $32 a barrel in 2000 when the "oil men" took office, now it's $104- and climbing! Socilaist no, fascist- yes. Right wing, corporate leaning, worker crushing republicans- but they let you keep your guns so you THINK you have some power...

Lookin' for a fix to this mess? I don't know what the final answer will be, but I'll offer a possible solution to some of it.......

This is going to sound over the top to some of you, but that's just the way I operate.

In my opinion, you should not have the power to vote in this country unless you have something of value to lose, like property or a job. You also should not have the power to vote if you are not contributing to the tax base.

All voter registrations should be rescinded and we should start over. Ballots and voter information should be in ENGLISH and English only because this is an English speaking country. In order to register to vote, you should have to show up at the local IRS office and show them your social security card. They would check records for tax returns and fingerprint you. If it shows that you have contributed via your tax return for the previous year, your name, address, ss number and fingerprints would be forwarded to the FBI to be included in their database. If you have not contributed to the tax base, sorry pal, hit the street. Once you were cleared there and found to not be a felon or have outstanding warrants, the FBI would forward the information to your local county for inclusion into the elegible voter rolls. When you show up to vote, you must have your ss card with you....or no vote.

If you don't like my plan, formulate one of your own. If you like it, try to get it on the ballot like I plan to do.

Originally Posted by MT79

Socialist?? I have to respectfully disagree. The right wing has been in control for over a decade now(congress, senate, presisdential office for almost 8 years). Oil was $32 a barrel in 2000 when the "oil men" took office, now it's $104- and climbing! Socilaist no, fascist- yes. Right wing, corporate leaning, worker crushing republicans- but they let you keep your guns so you THINK you have some power...

And since the Democrats have controlled Congress for the last couple of years why haven't they stopped the spiraling oil prices?

Originally Posted by MT79

Socialist?? I have to respectfully disagree. The right wing has been in control for over a decade now(congress, senate, presisdential office for almost 8 years). Oil was $32 a barrel in 2000 when the "oil men" took office, now it's $104- and climbing! Socilaist no, fascist- yes. Right wing, corporate leaning, worker crushing republicans- but they let you keep your guns so you THINK you have some power...

The one thing I will fight for to the death is your right to disagree......

amen mt79. i am not a socialist or a facist. i am a american. and all i can do is speak up when i see injustice and cast my vote to get rid of it if i can. otherwise i become part of the problem. i have raised my children to do the same. then maybe there will someday be a better world.

Originally Posted by techinspector1

Lookin' for a fix to this mess? I don't know what the final answer will be, but I'll offer a possible solution to some of it.......

This is going to sound over the top to some of you, but that's just the way I operate.

In my opinion, you should not have the power to vote in this country unless you have something of value to lose, like property or a job. You also should not have the power to vote if you are not contributing to the tax base.

All voter registrations should be rescinded and we should start over. Ballots and voter information should be in ENGLISH and English only because this is an English speaking country. In order to register to vote, you should have to show up at the local IRS office and show them your social security card. They would check records for tax returns and fingerprint you. If it shows that you have contributed via your tax return for the previous year, your name, address, ss number and fingerprints would be forwarded to the FBI to be included in their database. If you have not contributed to the tax base, sorry pal, hit the street. Once you were cleared there and found to not be a felon or have outstanding warrants, the FBI would forward the information to your local county for inclusion into the elegible voter rolls. When you show up to vote, you must have your ss card with you....or no vote.

If you don't like my plan, formulate one of your own. If you like it, try to get it on the ballot like I plan to do.

Remember people, that in the early stages of this country only white land and business owners were allowed to vote.

It's the blame game!!!!! Pick a side and jump in!!!!


Congratulations Richard!!!! Only new and original ideas will solve the problem..... Depending on the system to fix itself just ain't gonna happen!!!!


My plan is a bit more radical....Everybody just quit paying taxes til the system runs out of money... Money is power, with no money they have no power......

Originally Posted by techinspector1

The one thing I will fight for to the death is your right to disagree......

It's refreshing to hear that and I respect your opinions as well.

That type of attitude represents the America I grew up loving. Not one where you're labeled weak, ignorant or a traitor for disagreeing as seems to be so popular these days among some.

OK Denny, this is good. I'm gettin' some feedback.
Obviously we have to fine-tune the proposal.......
All veterans have already paid in all they are required to in service to their country and are excepted from the tax donation part of the proposal. Just show your DD214 at the IRS office and you're in.

Originally Posted by NTFDAY

And since the Democrats have controlled Congress for the last couple of years why haven't they stopped the spiraling oil prices?

One reason, and I'm by far no expert in case you didn't notice hah, is b/c they don't have the numbers YET to fight the fillibuster the Repubs use when they try and change policy. Another reason is that little "war" that keeps dragging on over there making things less stable in the region which drives up oil prices and there is also an increase in demand through out the world for oil(China, India). Oh yeah, that and the Dems overall are kind of spinless when push come to shove in my opinion. There are still a couple "good ones" on both sides Dems and Repubs- though not many.

PS- I don't think oil prices will ever really come back down, I may not be old but I wasn't born yesterday

Originally Posted by MT79

One reason, and I'm by far no expert in case you didn't notice hah, is b/c they don't have the numbers YET to fight the fillibuster the Repubs use when they try and change policy. Another reason is that little "war" that keeps dragging on over there making things less stable in the region which drives up oil prices and there is also an increase in demand through out the world for oil(China, India). Oh yeah, that and the Dems overall are kind of spinless when push come to shove in my opinion. There are still a couple "good ones" on both sides Dems and Repubs- though not many.

PS- I don't think oil prices will ever really come back down, I may not be old but I wasn't born yesterday

Oil prices are being driven up by speculators since commodities are going down the tubes.
And I, like Richard will to the death defend your right to disagree, but I did not serve this country to let it go to h... in a hand basket.

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

My plan is a bit more radical....Everybody just quit paying taxes til the system runs out of money... Money is power, with no money they have no power......

Well what would they do? Arrest everybody the jails seem to be full already.....