Thread: Warning from the past.......

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Sounds like these fellas knew a little sumtin......

Thank you. Really makes you think.

It's too late. This country is on a slippery slope downhill from which there is no recovery. Those who can vote in this country have discovered they can vote themselves the keys to the treasury via electing socialists. It's only a matter of time until we experience the straw that broke the camel's back, the point where there are more taking from the trough than there are filling the trough and then we're done. I predict a revolution after the collapse of government. Invest your money in powder and lead and put aside some gold and silver in small denomination coins. You'll need it to buy food, because paper money will be worthless. Yeah, like it's worth much right now!!!!

While I'm fired up, I'll continue. Nobody owns property in this country. If you think you own your home, just stop paying taxes on it and you'll find out who owns it. A friend of mine has a 3 acre parcel in Maricopa County. He must pay the county $850 each month if he plans to continue to "own" the property. The money is re-distributed to those who suck off the public trough.

Get a job?? There are few good paying jobs left in this country. Our leaders have allowed technology to be scarfed up by other countries. Even the few manufacturing firms that are left are being taxed at a rate that precludes their products from being competitive in a world market. Manufacturing is where true wealth is created. You don't create wealth by flipping hamburgers. Right after WWII, America was the strongest country on the planet. Dad worked a decent paying job and mom stayed home to raise the kids. If they misbehaved, dad took a belt to their bottom and they straightened up. Now, there are few jobs that dad can work that will pay all the bills, so mom has to work too. Or dad was just a sperm donor who lives somewhere else and couldn't care less. Even if there is a dad at home, he can't spank the kids anymore because if he does, Social Services will be at the door trying to take the kids away. That leaves the kids to fend for themselves and be subject to the teachings and behavior of the lowest common denominator. Doing drugs, ditching school, etc.

And there are actually people who think government makes money!!!! NOW HEAR THIS, PEOPLE; GOVERNMENT MAKES NO MONEY. They get their money via taxing those who toil to make money. As I said above, when the number of toilees exceeds the number of toilers, we're done.

i was thinking that crap was on to be posted on here ? and yes we are going to hell deal with it any way you can and blame everyone but your self

I'm normally a pretty "bottle half full" kind of person........I always look for the bright side of things. But I am frankly more concerned about our futures than I have ever been in my life. The economy is only a small part of it, but it affects us all. In the last year I don't think I have talked to one person who is better off today than they were two years ago. Every forum I go on I see guys posting that they are getting laid off or are considering moving because they can't make it where they are.

Sure, there are exceptions, but I am talking about the bulk of the people who live paycheck to paycheck. Home forclosures are at record highs, oil is now over $ 100 per barrel, and jobs are getting scarce.

I sure as h*** hope whoever moves into the Whitehouse has the ability to turn this thing around........I don't care what race or sex he or she might be, just so they know what they are doing. We need help out here, no doubt about it.

You know the old saying. "We are in a recession when YOU are out of work, and we are in a depression when I am out of work."

Don

sorry the last two guys in the white house did not do a damn thing about the price of fuel .so no one coming in will not. but they may say they will to get your vote??? no drilling in my back yard ! no new refineries in the usa so that is the price to pay and other will pay more for the fuel then the USA we still have a lot of coal i know they can refine it to fuel

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

I sure as h*** hope whoever moves into the Whitehouse has the ability to turn this thing around........I don't care what race or sex he or she might be, just so they know what they are doing. We need help out here, no doubt about it.
Don

That's the number one problem, thinking that government, be it the Pres, or Congress, or whoever/whatever, will solve anything. As Richard pointed out, all they can do is live off the teat of producing citizens. They only have the power to get in the way with onorous regulation, whether by good intention or not. No President ever created a good economy despite many trying to take credit for it, all they can do is either get in the way, or out of the way, and I don't here much from any of the current candidates that even remotely resembles getting OUT of the way.

I totally disagree that the President has little ability to fix things. Much of it depends on his reputation and the respect he commands from Congress and leaders of other countries. How they see him is how they see us.

Also, I am not an economist, but I do know that any time you buy more than you sell you are going to be in trouble. Right now America buys a lot more than we sell to others, which affects the value of our dollar and our ability to put people to work here.

We need to quit meddling in other peoples business and concentrate of the problems we have here at home. We think nothing of sending billions to other countries or dropping mega buck bombs on others, but millions of people at home here are without healthcare and too many children go to bed hungry at night. Call me an idealist, but it just doesn't add up to me.

Don

Originally Posted by DennyW

Yes, it works both ways....but, he sure can snap his fingers, and go to war quick enough...He can stop some of the waste the same way...all they got to do is take over that loan/interest/making banks that seem to be doing well. And we pay the tab for that too.

well it is like the guy at work moven like hell and not doing one damn thing and if he did any thing it not right it seams that no one wants to do the things that are unpopular i see fuel and power any way sun gas coal wind and other we must be able to suport are selfs .and the milddle east can work it out on there own and we must have a force that can take care of the safty of the usa . let any one know if they screw with us we turn there country in a glass top glow in the dark parking lot

We're borrowing money by the wheelbarrow load from the Asians to fund all the current programs, including the war. All I hear is "we need more money, more money, more money". So taxes go higher and higher, new taxes are implemented and Joe Sixpak has less and less disposable income. We're placing debts on our children and grandchildren that will become unbearable for them.

And I'm really, really tired of hearing people bash the "evil" corporations. Where the hell do you think jobs come from? Poor people don't hire employees. Companies hire employees. And they're doing their best right now to find employees who aren't riddled with drugs. And they're doing their best to produce a product or service that is competitive in a world market, all the while struggling with overtaxation and government rules and regulations.

There is only one cure for this drug problem and that is to pass legislation that allows a police officer to draw his service weapon and dispatch any individual on whom he finds illegal drugs. On the spot. Period. End of problem. Call for a meat wagon to haul 'em off to the dump. We simply cannot continue to spend the money to try to rehabilitate these vermin and spend money on the "war on drugs". It's ludicrous. Like Larry the Cable Guy says....."get 'er done".

If you want more of the same, just keep votin' for those socialist Democrats......

I just heard the statistics that one percent of Americans are in jail right now, think about that, one out of every one hundred people!!! That is staggering to think about, and I bet 99 percent of those are somehow drug related.

Now this is one area John Q Public has to take the blame for. People tend to obey only those laws that they consider important. "What harm can it do that I smoke a little harmless weed," they say. They don't realize that every person who does any form of drugs, either illegal or abused prescription, is contributing to the problem. If we were somehow able to erase all drug use a lot of our crime would disappear and we wouldn't have employees who have to be screened periodically to make sure they are clean. The drug problem costs this country a big chunk of change, and affects all of us in one way or another.

Don

Let's talk about the real leEches to the system that eat up sooooooo many of our tax dollars...This would be our "duly elected" (by about 35% of those eligible to vote) public officials.... Anybody on here that even thinks they have as good of medical insurance or retirement plan as our Senators and Representatives is just kidding themselves~!!!!! This latest travesty of justice they call a war will be costing us billions and billions of dollars for many years to come....and nobody seems to care!!!! The only way to kill this monster of bureacracy that we've had allowed to be created is to quit feeding it!!!! Don't blame the white house, nothing there but the head leech.

As in the early days of medicine when leeches were used as an attempt to cure illness and disease... When the donor runs out of blood and quits supplying blood to the leaches it dies, and eventually the leeches all die, too.....

I'm beginning to become an isolationist, and probably soon we'll all have to become survivalists.... Don't look to the government to solve the problems, they ARE THE PROBLEM........

So many fallacies, so little time.

Whether or not I agree with the current war, that power is vested to the President by our constitution. Stealing the profiits of private corporations is not. Neither is feeding "needy" children, or paying utility bills, or for that matter doctor bills. So if you think we're in touble now, maybe, just maybe it's because we've been sceding more and more of our personal responsibilities to the "government" for the past 75 years.

The notion that trade deficits by themselves is bad is another B.S. belief. We've had a trade deficit for most of the past 230 years, not just recently. The most recent time we didn't have a trade deficit? The Great Depression. Is that the model to aspire too?

Children hungry in this country? Gee, I guess the fact that 50%~ of scool children get "free" breakfast and lunch isn't enoughh? And how come the number one health concern for so called poor people is obesity? I must be stupid when I think that those things are the opposite of hunger.

Look, you guys are my friends so I don't want to wound you, but all I hear is how much our society has deteriorated in the last several decades. I don't disagree. But identifying the legitimate cause is the challenge. During that same time period have we had more or less power bestowed to the political class? Logic tells me the demonstrated outcome is the more we give them the further we decline. I just don't see how intelligent caring people can want more of the same decline. You know I love old sayings, the one that fits most here is "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

Man that all hits heavy. We The People...............What are we going to do????????

Originally Posted by colorado815

Man that all hits heavy. We The People...............What are we going to do????????

Simple solution is the one that worked a couple hundred years ago.... Just quit paying taxes and take control of the country again..... Notice I said simple, not easy.....