dave I want to apologise if I did not understand your post.I evidently took it the wrong way and do sincerely apologise. things are alot different in different places in this country and I realize that.that's why I will be moving after 62 yrs. from ca. to fl. I have 8ac. of property in Florida . you can't imagine what is happening here they want a automobile free state only public transportation. today the state senate passed a new law no more free parking any where in the state that includes private and street parking and business you an have 1 parking stall for every 10.000 sq ft. good luck wall mart shoppers these peopled don't care I just hope fl. is much slower to change as all these left wing nuts here sorry ......ted