Thread: Nsra 2010

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[QUOTE=Flipper_1938;386698]Louisville is where it is going to get ugly.

Louisville has hundreds of pre-1980 local cars on 24" wheels with loud stereos and gangster /gangster wannabe drivers.

Those are the ones that will ruin the fine event we all know and love.

They are probably already waiting in line to get prime spots to show off their stuff.




I seriously doubt many of the 24" wheel, booming stereo crowd will bother with an NSRA event anymore then I would take a deuce to one of their shows!!!!! Why should they bother, they have their own get togethers and probably don't want to waste a weekend sitting around with a group of people with preconceived ideas of "their kind"!!!!! and if some do show up, maybe some could give their rides a lookover and perhaps notice that though the styling is different they still operate under the same premise that fit, finish, and detail is what separates a Hot Rod from all the others...

Prejudice towards groups and stereotyping people is ugly, inexcusable, and terribly out of date no matter what disguise it is wearing!!!!

Live and let live.

The NSRA was not a private club just for old white guys. Anybody with a streetrod could pay their entry fee, and drive into the show.

Up to this point, all of the NSRA events I have attended have been great. I don't ever recall hearing of cops being called to break up fights/investigate shootings and the people who do consume alcohol at the events seem to act in a civilized manner. I have a strong suspission that will change.

It is the bad behavior of the individuals that I don't care for, not their race. ....for the record, I don't like obnoxious rednecks either.

Originally Posted by Flipper_1938

The NSRA was not a private club just for old white guys. Anybody with a streetrod could pay their entry fee, and drive into the show.

Up to this point, all of the NSRA events I have attended have been great. I don't ever recall hearing of cops being called to break up fights/investigate shootings and the people who do consume alcohol at the events seem to act in a civilized manner. I have a strong suspission that will change.

It is the bad behavior of the individuals that I don't care for, not their race. ....for the record, I don't like obnoxious rednecks either.

Ahhh, you must not have been at the NSRA Nats. in MN '78. Cops seemed to be in riot mode, w/firetrucks dumpin' water on the street in front of porky's drive in to keep the hot rodders under control. I will admit we didn't shoot anybody, but I heard stories of a fire or two being started by some out of control hot rodders. All in fun though.

Flipper 1938; I would like to think that Dave Severson is correct in saying that the Louisville Nats won't be bothered with the "gangsta" types. On the other hand the law of averages says that some will show up. Has anyone talked to an NSRA rep to see what their thoughts on this might be? Keeping in mind an NSRA rep might be hesitant to voice a negitave opinion and most likely would have to be politically correct in any comments he might make. I'm planning on making the 550 mile trip to Louisville this year in hopes that it will be enjoyable. I guess I can always leave the event if things get "ugly". If that happens, I will certainly contact NSRA with the details. Ironiclly the only time I ever experenced a problem at a Nats event was at Louisville in '04 and a group of rodders from Illinois saw fit to spray my friends very nice '40 Ford coupe with Armor All because we had parked too close to their large tent. No damage done other than a clean up. Twenty years ago I never thought I would have to worry about dealing with a situation at an NSRA event. "The times, they are a changin".

Originally Posted by old ford

Flipper 1938; Has anyone talked to an NSRA rep to see what their thoughts on this might be? Keeping in mind an NSRA rep might be hesitant to voice a negitave opinion and most likely would have to be politically correct in any comments he might make.

Yeah - I have and I can assure you that their comments were not totally politically correct. These weren't the state reps but a couple of the home office folks. Neither were happy that this was happening, but they did admit that it was about the only way that any of the events would stay open and viable. Too many of us "old white guys" were either retiring from the hobby or, gasp, dying off and attendance was down. So far I haven't seen any really bad donk types or too many POS nor ricers, but my guess is that they will be starting to show up.

As far as nasties - power parking seems to be, IMHO, the worst I've seen with 20-30 people hanging around, claiming a couple more spaces. Of course there are those who seem to like to see smoke coming out of the rear wheel wells.... nah, never me though

The last time I was in Louisville at the NATs (2005) there were almost 12K cars there and that was pre '48. What kind of numbers will be there now with the later model years being allowed?

Originally Posted by bluvelle65

The last time I was in Louisville at the NATs (2005) there were almost 12K cars there and that was pre '48. What kind of numbers will be there now with the later model years being allowed?

Probably about 4,000

A WHOLE LOT of old guys are pissed and saying they aren't going.

I predict that it will turn into more of a regional event instead of being "The Nationals". Who is going to drive cross-country to be part of an open car show? It's just not going to be the same.

Well with these changes I wouldnt come halfway around the world to go to a major NSRA event. (remember, Im from New Zealand)

I wouldnt come because it would be full of silly old fools who would spend too much of their time bleating to their mates about how good NSRA used to be and how "they" arent listening to "us" anymore.

And staying away in droves may kill the events, not change them back to what you like

Theres probably very little stopping you from organising a regional Pre-49 event of your own if you cant stomach the sight of anything built after that time period.

Just ask yourselves "are we having fun yet?"

Well put Todd, I agree with your thoughts, You get out of an event what one is prepared to put into that event. If some want to sit on their butts and see the negative all the time instead of enjoying participating in the whole event, they are the losers in the long run... No one is physically forced to stop and checkout somebodies car that doesn't interest them....

Originally Posted by Whiplash23T

Well put Todd, I agree with your thoughts, You get out of an event what one is prepared to put into that event. If some want to sit on their butts and see the negative all the time instead of enjoying participating in the whole event, they are the losers in the long run... No one is physically forced to stop and checkout somebodies car that doesn't interest them....

Well said, very well said!!!! Guess I just don't like whiners and gloomy Gus types!!!! Every show, be it National or a local parking lot, has been fun!! Some are just a lot more fun then others!!! Personally I would hope the doom and gloom guys all stay home, would take a lot of the fun out of an event listening to a bunch of whiners carry on about how good it used to be!!!! Another thing I've learned over the years is to take the time to study builds that aren't "my type"---seems I can learn a bit and maybe pick up a couple new ideas from other aspects of the sport besides just studying another Deuce with a SBC... Oh well, I guess if you look hard enough you can find negative in any event.......

Originally Posted by Hot Rod Todd

....Theres probably very little stopping you from organising a regional Pre-49 event of your own if you cant stomach the sight of anything built after that time period.
Just ask yourselves "are we having fun yet?"

There is a new national organization forming, http://www.americanstreetrodassociation.com/, but I'm not convinced it is the right idea. As has been pointed out, the population of the "traditional" street rodder crowd is aging (like me, first build at 62!!) and attendance for NSRA events has been dropping while fees for vendor spaces remain high and transportation costs to attend are climbing. Add to the mix the success of GoodGuys, the long rivalry of the managers of NSRA/GoodGuys, and this shift in approach is easier to understand. My fear is that a whole new group of major shows by groups like ASRA will tend to further dillute the coverage by vendors which is one of the major draws of these events - seeing and buying the latest goodies that are being developed for our sport. Each person is going to have opportunity to vote for the "new" format at NSRA plus events, and that vote is your price of registration. I agree that the soapbox complaints are getting kind of old.... my $0.02.

Like the phrase that I came up with when I founded my club back in '93 stated, "It's the cars that bring us together but it's the people that keep us together" I believe that still holds true! I have been a long time member of the NSRA and Goodguys as well as ACES and many local and state clubs. I was the WA/OR State Rep to the Buick Street Rod Assoc for 9 years and I have had hot rods, street rods and muscle cars and now just down to a '65 Chevelle muscle car. I have been to the NATs in Louisville and loved the hell out of it and I have also been to many Goodguys events and had a blast there as well. My point is that I love my car hobby and enjoy looking at what other people's vision is in their hobby as well. I enjoy looking at special interest vehicles but I go to hang out with my buddies whether it's1948 and older or '48 and later. I think I can honestly understand where all the fear is coming from but sooner or later we're all gonna be gone anyway and who do you think is going to be left to keep our hobby going? Yep - all those folks that aren't nessecarily into '48's and older but still enjoy having a "Special" car. I do not enjoy the new age of imports but it is their hobby and I say to each their own! Whew... you can tell I've been away for awhile!

Hi Dave, let me tell you a little story... I attend a car show a few years ago that had an open to any type of modified car policy... The car that suck in the mind for a long time after that show and got my vote for "peoples choice" was an early Mazda Coupe with a rotary engine... The finish and prefect fit, every piece of aluminium including all the engine was highly polished, the correct wheels/tyres, paint ,upholstery, everything on that car was excellent... All I could think at the time was that was the type of finish I wanted to accomplish on my Anglia that I was building at that time.... So as you say... one can learn from even the young fellas building their more modern type of vehicle.....

Somebody on another board got there registration packet this week. Their number was in the 4800's. ....pretty low number to be 7 weeks away.

Looks like there are a bunch of people that are boycotting.

I copied a reply from that other board

I also heard the same thing over the past weekend! I also spoke with a member of the Evansville Iron Club and he said the members were, as he put it "a nervous wreck" because the club is afraid they may have too many pre 49 cars this year and no where to put them! Frog Follies and the Eville iron have the best show goin right now! (Just my opinion)

I think 12,000 cars (normal nats crowd) need to show up at Frog Follies and not go to the nats.