Thread: Nsra 2010

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Originally Posted by Flipper_1938

I read your post but do not buy into your argument that going to 1980 cut off is an economic necessity for the NSRA to survive. They are in fact hurting themselves and the street rod industry.

The coke example is a valid comparisson. NSRA is a product provider that made changes to their product that the consumer did not want. As consumers, we have the right to choose what we want to buy or not buy.

To each his own - guess I'll not see you at any NSRA events then.

My biggest claim to fame is being the only Norwegian to have rolled a car into the city square in Pella, Ia!!!!! (For those of you not in the know, Pella is "Mecca" to all good Hollanders and in the old days us Norweigians had to sneak into town.) Anyway, wasn't a major wreck, my old Ferd just got drunk and fell over into the square one Saturday night!!!! ----I was banned from Pella for life!!!!

It's a small world Dave. Next Weekend we are pullin' Jeff's car out to the DragList Nats. V. Jeff is going make another run at my best time from back in the early 70's "8.48". His best time to date is an 8.87. Today we are headed to the dyno to get the computer familiar with the engines after market parts and the new set of 32 lb. injectors he picked up to replace the 19's. I think my old time is in jeopardy.

Anyway I digress. A week from today we will be headed for Eddyville. We plan to spend a day in Pella before the weekend @ the DLN's. I'll be sure to check out the square to see if I can find any lingering ferd scares.

Originally Posted by pro70z28

It's a small world Dave. Next Weekend we are pullin' Jeff's car out to the DragList Nats. V. Jeff is going make another run at my best time from back in the early 70's "8.48". His best time to date is an 8.87. Today we are headed to the dyno to get the computer familiar with the engines after market parts and the new set of 32 lb. injectors he picked up to replace the 19's. I think my old time is in jeopardy.

Anyway I digress. A week from today we will be headed for Eddyville. We plan to spend a day in Pella before the weekend @ the DLN's. I'll be sure to check out the square to see if I can find any lingering ferd scares.

While you're in Pella, could you please check to make sure the warrants have all expired????

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

While you're in Pella, could you please check to make sure the warrants have all expired????

I'll check Dave. What dates are we talkin' about again? I wonder if Lena still works the front desk down at the courthouse?

Originally Posted by pro70z28

I'll check Dave. What dates are we talkin' about again? I wonder if Lena still works the front desk down at the courthouse?

Just a couple years back....either '66 or '67.....

It's so funny to me. Back in the day, I remember my father swearing at the NSRA for not allowing 49-51 sleds in. I guess nothing's perfect.

I haven't read this entire thread so I'm jumping in kinda' late here and I'm probably not saying anything that hasn't already been said. But, let me preface this by saying I LOVE street rods, rat rods, lead sleds, street machines, and traditional 60's/early 70's muscle cars. I very much enjoy the Good Guys Heartland Nationals in Des Moines and take my car (chopped, twice "Z-ed", slammed, '40 Chevy Sedan with full roller 496" BBC) there every year.
However, I really don't see anything wrong with events that include certain types of cars and exclude others. I mean muscle cars have their exclusive events, as do street machines, Corvettes, Fords, Chevys, Oldsmobiles, Buicks, Pontiacs, Mopars, etc. Some people just want to get together with others that have interests and cars like theirs. What's wrong with that? Not a thing, IMHO. That's the very reason the NSRA was founded.
And who's this "overwhelming majority" the OP is talking about? Seems that if this thread is any indication, the "overwhelming majority" are those who are against including 30 y/o and newer cars. Personally, I could perhaps see a need to include cars up to '54 so as to give the lead sleds somewhere to go. But all the way up to 1980? Sorry, but I'll have to respectfully, but strongly disagree.
For my street rodding buddies and myself, part of the problem is we can only take so much time off from our jobs. So, like most people, we have limited choices for car shows. When the NSRA was strictly a street rod organization we would go to the Mid America Nationals in Springfield over the Memorial Day holiday, then to the Good Guys Heartland Nationals in Des Moines over the 4th of July holiday. That way we would get our street rod show fix, see all our street rod friends and vendors, talk street rods, admire almost 3000 street rods, get new ideas for our street rods, and then we were ready to go see everything else at the Heartland Nationals in Des Moines. That's the reason I sold my '66 Nova street machine...so I could buy a street rod and participate in both events with all my friends. Then after Des Moines we would go to the Early Tin Dusters street rod only event in Quincy, Il in October.
I personally know of 9 street rodders and their families from our area in southern Iowa alone who will no longer be going to Springfield and who will be discontinuing their membership with the NSRA because of the decision to include 30 y/o and newer cars. I'm not really angry or pissed off so much as I'm just really disappointed with this decision. We need an exclusive street rod organization like the NSRA used to be. The only street rod exclusive event we have left within a few hours drive is Quincy and it is just a show, not a national organization and show. However, it is extremely well run and it remains my favorite event to participate in.
Well, I must say it was nice while it lasted for my street rod buddies and myself. Springfield (NSRA Mid America Nationals) was a great time. We would stay in Osage Beach, Mo. and drive into Springfield each day of the event. The drive was a beautiful one and half the fun. But since we already go to an all inclusive event in Des Moines, Springfield won't reveal much new for us so we'll spend our time elsewhere. Really too bad...and I do mean that.
OK, those are my feelings as honestly as I can state them. But it's only one person's opinion. And apparently I'm not in the "overwhelming majority". See ya's in Quincy.


Tom

Ya' know I took the time today to read this entire thread. And I'll have to admit Dave and the other "open show" proponents make some very valid points. If we have truly gotten to the point where we need to open shows up to more years for the survival of the hobby/sport, then having open shows is certainly better than having no shows. But it's hard for me to believe we're at that point...right now anyway. Although I don't honestly know. I do know the Early Tin Dusters bring in between 800-900 street rods for their Fall Color Run every October in Quincy. And that's just a small local club. We had crappy weather (cold and rainy) for last years' show so attendance was down slightly. But if their numbers are any indication street rodding is alive and very well...for now.
As far as street rodders being buttheads, snobs, and general asshats, you'll find that in any kind of car show, open or not. It's not anymore prevelent with street rodders than any other group of car show participants. I know because over the years I've sat in street rod, street machine, and muscle car classes and there were just as many dickheads in one class as the others. Fortunately there haven't been lots of 'em but there's always one somewhere. And I'll offer myself as an example. Er..uh, I mean as a nice guy. I'm a really nice guy. Really. No, seriously. I really am. So are my street rodding buddies. We're all sweethearts. I don't mean with each other. I mean...well you know what I mean.
And, Dave and all the open show proponents, I have a two word answer to every, single, one of your posts...Good Guys. They do a superb job of presenting the exact kind of show you're looking for. I think they go up through '72 and you can bring anything...even a Datsun if you want!
Now having said that, I think Dave's point about open shows insuring the longevity of our car show hobby is a strong one. Street rodders are indeed aging. I'm 60 and the numbers of younger people interested in street rodding are not looking too good. So, we do indeed need to be proactive lest we find ourselves as street rodders becoming an extinct entity. At least extinct enough to not be able to support any organizational efforts on a national level. As Dave has said, one way to stimulate interest is to participate in some open shows with our rods and cultivate younger participants.
I'm not quite ready yet to completely give up on the idea of street rod exclusive organizations and shows. But I do think it might become inevitable as street rodder numbers begin to dwindle over the next 10 years or so.
I like the idea of organizing cars by classes at open shows. That way you can kind of have your cake and eat it too. I'd be together with my street rodding friends but could still view other classes of cars if I wanted. It's done at lots of small local shows and works very well.
I'm now glad I read the entire thread. It's opened up my mind and given me some things to consider regarding the future of street rodding and car showing in general. I'll have to chew on this awhile though. And there are a lot of good points brought up in the thread I didn't address here. I'll leave it up to someone else to do that. OK, I'll shut up now.


Tom

from another forum. Looks like about 4,000 people are boycotting.

Just back from picking up our packet for the Nationals, they're showing registration numbers only going up into 7200. That's way down from past
years & they can't blame it on the economy (but they will). Looks like the shirt
prices are up too, $20 for the T-shirt. Looks like they cut their noses off the spite their face. JMHO

from another forum

Local louisville here, I have been at the fairgrounds all day. The vendors inside are way down. The highest car number I seen today was 8200. NSRA has screwed up big time. Next year will be a joke...

You know...when the word gets out about the changes in the next couple of years, that number might jump. Just a thought.

My wife and I have attended two NSRA events this year (OKC & Springfield) and were very pleased with what was shown. The 50's pickups at OKC were just fabulous and the 32 Fords (my favorites) were a very nice group at both events. I just don't understand boycotting events like these. You may be killing something you cannot replace. I just don't see any good coming out of boycotting. The street rodders we have met have just been a great group of people, so I have confidence that they will turn this into a positive thing. At least this is what we are hoping for. We are looking forward to making these shows next year. Bonneville on our "to do" list.

Well folks, for those of you that go, I hope you have a great time. For those of you that chose not to go, I hope you have a great time doing whatever else is better than going to a rod run.

I looking forward to the feedback on how it was. Down here, our 2011 Nationals has a max of 500 participants, so I guess I would be impressed to see 8200 cars.

Even if I would walk past rows of Elenor replicas without giving them a second glance, I still appreciate that somebody, somewhere, loves them to bits.

And our sport is about our passion for cars, and the great people we meet thru them.

Originally Posted by Hot Rod Todd

Well folks, for those of you that go, I hope you have a great time. For those of you that chose not to go, I hope you have a great time doing whatever else is better than going to a rod run.

I looking forward to the feedback on how it was. Down here, our 2011 Nationals has a max of 500 participants, so I guess I would be impressed to see 8200 cars.

Even if I would walk past rows of Elenor replicas without giving them a second glance, I still appreciate that somebody, somewhere, loves them to bits.

And our sport is about our passion for cars, and the great people we meet thru them.

Same with me Todd!!! At our local show, we'd be downright giggly if we ever got 500 cars, guess it's all relative, huh???? I don't understand how any group or individual would hope for a show's failure!!! With the current economic conditions and the gov'ment making it tougher on Hot Rodders everyday could be that a someday a show with "only" 8200 cars is little more then a memory!!! What's good for the hobby is good for all of us and what hurts the hobby hurts all of us! But then I guess I've never been one to take pleasure from someone else's failure!