Thread: did you feel it

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if you did do ya know what it was that was our deer leader the messiah painting the bull's eye on your back.don't worry the knife is coming soon. yes the epa has declared co2 (carbon dioxide) to be a dangerous pollutant and health risk and need to be federally regulated because it was ignored for the last 8 years after all we had to have change remember last november when things couldn't get worse we need to beat swords into plow shears, spread poverty equity and oh ya beat cars and hot rods into buses and high speed trains but we have give him a chance he;s only been there 81 days....god help us......ted

On 2nd thought never mind!!

Get off you soapbox!! America and the world love him He's going to turn his back on Israel and get us all blown up by North Korea or Iran anyway. Something has to change right? America voted for change right? Too bad they never attempted to find out what the change was. Here we are, the greatest nation in the world, built by the lowest bidder, and a rookie behind the wheel. Change is coming to America! Maybe he needs to ask Al Gore for some advice an the transportation subject or appoint him as sectetary of mass transportation or something.

35Chevy, I fear you're right. Change is coming to America, but I don't think we're gonna like it.

Ted, have you changed your meds recently?

Cheer up, we can vote him out in the next round! .....assuming there are enough of us who don't want a free handout, to outvote those who do. 8-(

free handout

I don't qualify...I'm married, I've got a job, I pay taxes, I don't have any illigitimate children and I was born in America...I'm the one that'll have to pay for the handouts.

You know guys ive been kinda worried about the future of the country lately and this has prompted me to ask a few questions. I know we all get on here and comment on the cool changes our new fearless leader is throwing at us, but what do you guys really think the outcome is going to be?

Im not really a professional when it comes to politics and i dont claim to understand how it really works. Im smart enough to see thru the lies and question they`re intent. Some of you guys have been thru a few presidents and have seen the ups and downs of this nation, so do you think this is really the final decent of our beloved country?

Im not looking for finger pointing or side blaming, were in the hole regardless of who put us there, but do you guys think we`ll pull out of this one or are we really doomed?

John, I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this as I've been warning about this phoney CO2 stuff for a few years and believe it falls on deaf ears. While I'm no fan of Pres. Obama he's not the only one. There is a Congress that has a role as well. That's part of the foolishness spouted anytime someone starts or ends a sentence with "......the last 8 years.....". They're just partisan parrots who also spout stuff like "all those people who participated in the tax day tea parties are racist". Facts don't matter to people like that, and I believe they're either too lazy or incapable of rational thought and discussion. If any of the bills that are floating around in Congress get passed, coupled with the unilateral power now bestowed on career bureaucrats at EPA, we're looking at serious restrictions on our lifestyles, usurpation of private property rights, and soaring fuel and utility bills. Businesses will be forced to compete on unlevel playing fields with foreign suppliers. (The first response there will be tariffs which will spawn trade wars that will cost jobs as well). Too much of American industry has sold it's soul to the political class that we can't rely on them to put up a good fight. For one example look at GE, a total sell out because they hoped to have their political buddies erect legislated walls that would prevent competition. Small business federations will attempt to put up a fight, but will be greatly out numbered. The Federal Government offices tasked with projecting (usually underestimating reality) expected economic impacts of legislation have already guessed that any of the proposed Cap and Trade regimes would raise "average" home utility bills by as much as $3000 per year, and other fuel costs by as much as $4000 per year. Even if you cut those numbers in half that takes a big bite out of the average family budget. Since you'll pay more for something you already get, and NEED, you have to trim other things from your budget. If you're some rich Hollywood type, no big deal. For those of us way down here in real middle class land it's a bunch. How many jobs supplying those things that millions of households will have to cut will be shed. None of this will happen in one days time, but will bleed into the system over a period of time. The politicians know they have to poison you slowly so as not to rile you up. They also have all the investment in propaganda over the past couple decades so that they can blame the oil companies for motor fuel price hikes, and a whole cast of evil corporations for the rest, oh, and don't forget Wall Street. Anybody but themselves, and their pals in the media will back stop them.............just listen to how they're attacking all those normal citizens who had the gall to protest on Wednesday. It's a large and sadly effective hate machine.

It's hard for me to be positive about any of this as I would prefer to be. I've come to the point where I feel that all of those folks who wouldn't listen when we were warning them all these years should just have to take a lickin' .................they deserve it. The rest of us will just have to do what we've always done, figure out a way to survive in spite of it.

Amen Bob....The attempt to reduce CO2 won't be an overnight thing anyway. EPA has merely put a dent in slowing down the production of hydrocarbons and they started trying to reduce them in the 60's with the introduction of the PCV system in 1963. The whole world is pumping out hydrocarbons still today.

Geez, and all this is Obama's fault???? Do you blame Obama, or just liberals in general when the mail main is late?????
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At the speed the government bureacracy functions, if the EPA made the anouncement today, that would probably mean they've been eating up taxpayers $$$$$$ for 5 or 6 years to "study" the "problem"....

The "new" president will never have enough power to do 1/10th the damage that the "old" (as in a Senator who's been there more then 1 term, or a Representative who's been there more then 2 terms) politicians can inflict.... Term limits would at least get the idiots to maybe do something while there in DC other then work on their reelection campaign.....

Don't matter who's in charge, the government created the problems, why in the world would they even want to consider fixing anything?????

That`s my main concern Dave, i know it`s not the puppets fault,ie bush or obama`s. But the reality to me is we as a nation are in a bad spot, whoevers fault it may be, we are screwed!! Should i anticipate the demise of the world we know? or is this just another bump in the road that we call freedom?

Ive never been this scared before!! Ive been confortable in my daily life and only balk at the things that have effected me. But now i have an uneasy feeling that this nation, as well as the rest of the real power`s in the world have finally milked the system for all it has. My question is, will we pull out of this one? or will we continue to be wastefull and just piss away the life we know?

20 years ago i prayed for total war and full scale lawlessness, but now i really dont want madmax life!! i want to grow old peacefully, im too old and tired to continue in my kill the world mentality. Im not a saint by any means, but i am a man who has studied the various religions and i have a bad feeling that this is it for mankind! i think we have shit in our own beds for to long and it`s time to pay up. If there`s ever been a time in my life i wished i was wrong this would be it!!!