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In August or September of 1949, I was 6 years old and had just stared the 2nd grade, I was out under a very large oak tree playing with some cars and trucks during recess. Another kid, my age, came along and wiped out a portion of the roads I had built in the dirt. Needless to say I took exception to that and the fight was on. One of the teachers saw the fight and broke it up and escorted both of us to the principals office where we both subjected to a few swats of her paddle. When I got home, I was living with my mother's parents, my grandmother paddled my butt again and when my grandfather got home it was deja-vu all over.
If that scenario was to play out today there would probably be at least three people in jail and the two combatants would probably feel as though they could get away with anything without any penalty.
This, in my opinion, is one of the major things wrong with our society today and it needs to be changed.

I believe we have both good and bad like some on here have already said.
How would you explain a parent with two kids and one is good and one is bad.
I know we have all seen that a time or two, is that because they spoil one child and not the other, I doubt it. So some kids are good and some are just bad. Yes I do agree that some times the up bringing can be a problem, but other times I think it's the company that the children keep. So you have to watch thier friends as well as teaching what is acceptable and what is not. Let's not forget we have alot of kids fighting for this country prepared to die, You say young folks. I say kids they can not vote or drink yet in public,
Though when I was in it was not hard for me at 17 to get a drink if I wanted too.
And yes I was a kid too. Just the way I see it, Oh and I don't believe any of them will be able to hear a thing, past 30 Years of age. But I'm a old grump now. Tried to post this earlier but was having problems with the site. HE! HE! HE! Kurt

I know, Kurt, sometimes even kids that are raised right go south. One or two kids in a family are ok but one gets in trouble constantly.

I guess things go on inside some peoples heads that you just have no answers for.

Don

MY Wiffy watches HLN and I caught a little bit of it yesterday when they were talking about two famous delinquents named Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton. I wouldn't P'?? on either of them if they were on fire.

The story was that they had been caught with drugs and they also tested positive for drug use and they are supposed to be on probation.

"What kind of message does that send to our young people about the System that we have here in the States?"

I know what it tells them, and we have seen it time and time again.
If you have money you can get away with anything!!!
We seen it with so called Star's all the time.
OJ is probably the one that everone remembers, if that had been any of us
we would have been hung out to dry after the shocking had stopped.
Whats that old saying that is still true through all the years!!!
MONEY TALKS AND BS WALKS, they should have applied that to our court system!!!
Just the way I see it. Kurt

Have any of you seen some of the dumb*** Mothers who take their young Daughters to an event where Paris or Lindsay are appearing, and hold them up as a role model for their Girls? Makes you want to reach through the TV and shake that Mother and try to make her realize that when her own Kid starts behaving badly that she only has to look in the mirror to see who caused that to happen.

I think some Parents are afraid to be Parents and take the easier route of becoming "friends" with their Kids.

Don

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

Have any of you seen some of the dumb*** Mothers who take their young Daughters to an event where Paris or Lindsay are appearing, and hold them up as a role model for their Girls? Makes you want to reach through the TV and shake that Mother and try to make her realize that when her own Kid starts behaving badly that she only has to look in the mirror to see who caused that to happen.

I think some Parents are afraid to be Parents and take the easier route of becoming "friends" with their Kids.

Don

Out of our 4 kids (and 10 grandchildren), we have one daughter, the single mom, who is/was like that. Her son, our grandchild, age 8 is not allowed in our house!! His father and current trash can wife have made him a monster - mouthing off at his mother plus hitting her on occasion, destroying others property, sulking, having nasty 'attacks' when he doesn't get his way, etc. He has been taken to counseling, been worked with at school but his mom, our daughter is not consistent with how he is punished or praised. Grounded for a week for a major infraction ,that is, until tomorrow. He is about to be dropped off at his fathers for good.

Our other three kids/their spouses and 8 GC are fine, tho I am starting to see a couple of the youngest being spoiled - but.....and of course we help with that. But they are basically good, have manners and are going to grow up just fine

As the Duly Appointed Representative of the mid to late 20s crowd, I would just like to say its all the generations before me's fault . In All seriousness, something that has been lacking in this country has been a sense of self responsibility. From those who rack up massive bills they cant pay buying things they don't need and cant afford, to our very own "its everyones fault but mine" government. This type of mentality is destroying millions of people who try to look up to others every day. Granted, there is the occasional bright spot, but every generation shows the next. It takes a Village to raise a child. As such, every trait from the generation before is passed along, good or bad. And if there is an increasing number of bad influences, then the number will increase exponentially every generation. And this is truely a sad state of afairs

im 23 and 90% of my "friends" or aquitences are at least twice my age, IE 35+ i cannont stand 98% of people my age, and i never have been able to, was hard being in HS!!! baggy pants dont "dis me" attitude. you want respect? EARN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not saying you drg84 just counting the masses here.

i cannont STAND people who want "respect" but havent earned a damn bit of it!! i want this , i want that. put the bong down, drop the xbox controller, quit texting and get a F-ING JOB. yes they are hard to find out here umemployment rate in my town is about 20-25% i had to move because of it BUT it goes back to the attitude?? pester someone in a shop until they cant stand you anymore and start making you clean up or something.

when i worked for bucky austin on the race team guess what i did? i cleaned his shop's, his personal cars, the race rigs and trailers, and detailed his RV. also got to work on the race cars and all that. but you know what? just being there made it all worth it, and i didint have a problem being low man on the totem pole.

you wont die if you start out on the bottom and work your way up. TRUST ME.

oh well im off my soapbox , for now

Hopefully we have many more young folk like you guys to help right the ship. Don't give up!

Parenting is one of the hardest, yet most rewarding, jobs that I have ever undertaken. Yet, my grandchildren are watching the media make celebrity Moms out of Kate "Gooseling" and the Octo-Mom. IMHO, Parenting is much more difficult these days than when I was raising mine so "Good Luck future Parents"

Gasser, I have to agree with you on this one. Respect is earned, not given. However, on that note, it becomes harder and harder to get a chance to earn said respect due to those who precede us, weather in jobs, interviews or actions. However, i do have something that will hopefully impress you guys as much as it did me.
I got a call this morning saying that we needed extra help hauling out grape trays. For those who dont know, a grape tray is a 4X2 plastic tub filled with about 40-50 lbs of grapes. Now imagine hauling these up onto a moving trailer about 200 times in 4 hours. Yeah. Aaaanyway, i called my adopted brother who was busy and asked him if he wanted to work. yeah, no dice. Well here comes the miracle.
I called my genetic brother who was with his girlfriend 2 town over. He jumped at the chance, walked 20 miles to meet me on the way into work. 7AM, he walks 20 miles to go to work. And the amazing part is he worked fast, steady with no complaints. He was good enough that my boss took his cell phone number and told him to expect calls in the future. I was proud and impressed to say the least

This ought to help kids define between what's right and wrong. Read this online today..unbelievable!...:eek:


One assistant high school coach brought a new meaning to "backfield in motion" during a high school football game in New York City.

The Boys and Girls High School assistant coach dropped his shorts during the game, exposing his backside to the home fans of the Campus Magnet High School in Queens, N.Y. after a disputed call by the referees.

The surprising show of skin from the assistant coach came after a shoving match on the field between assistant coaches and school safety officials.

"His fellow assistant coaches were holding him back and he turned around and pulled down his shorts," David Sumter, 40, a Campus Magnet parent told the New York Daily News. "All I saw was his big [rear end]."

The melee began when Campus Magnet scored a 2-point conversion try after the team's running back Raeshawn Lewis was apparently stripped of the ball as he crossed the goal line, according to the Daily News. When the refs confirmed the ruling on the field, Boys and Girls Club assistant coach Clive Harding ran to dispute the call.

School safety officials were then summoned as the assistant coach continued to yell at officials, which stoked the assistant coach's anger.

The refs then ejected the team's coach Barry O'Connor and Harding as fans continued to heckle the them.

That's when Harding lost his shorts.

Walking to the fence, he began screaming at fans and then gave them an eyefull of his backside.

"I think he was so frustrated and he wanted to fight and some people were using curse words and he couldn't do anything," Sumter told the Daily News. "It's out of line. If you're getting beat and it's a bad call, you take it in stride. You don't pull your pants down."

But while Harding's action were less than stellar, his players'actions were anything but.

"Both benches, especially the Boys and Girls kids, acted like gentlemen," PSAL Commissioner Alan Arbuse told the Daily News.

a draft might shape up a few of these snot nosed kids also.

hell i tried to join 6 times every time was told to fat. when you volunteer for infantry duty in iraq <this was a few years ago mind you> and they still say your to fat, well you know.......

being 6'6 300 they wouldnt let me, yet at the time convicted felons and a few rapists got to go in...................

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

a draft might shape up a few of these snot nosed kids also.

hell i tried to join 6 times every time was told to fat. when you volunteer for infantry duty in iraq <this was a few years ago mind you> and they still say your to fat, well you know.......

being 6'6 300 they wouldnt let me, yet at the time convicted felons and a few rapists got to go in...................

Another good point....Our compulsory militiary training was abolished about 40 years ago,,it needs to be brought back,so these little oxygen thieves can learn the finer points of respect..and it could all start by spending the winter in the Waiouru Military camp in the centre of our North Island,,also known as the central plateau,where it snows,and has thousands of square miles of tussock grass,and sand,,and snow..did I mention the snow???
Teach them a spot of,,yes sir,no sir,how much shine on the boots sir???