Thread: The Reno Plane crash-Wow
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09-19-2011 07:14 PM #16
The way 'Big Brother' is slinging regulations and laws at us, we sure as heck don't need spectator sports to have their heavy hand there too. Look at baseball - and Senate hearings with the use of steroids - it's none of their damn business if Roger Clements or others used them. Go to a doctor's office and read that Hipaa form. Even your wife/partner can't get any information. Then Obamacare - and the regulations go on and on and on.
Dam' ya got me started.
If you don't want to spectate, as Dave S said, don't. It's a heluva lot more dangerous statistically wise driving to an event to be a spectator then being there. As a participant, your odds do go up. Heck, stay home, maybe even stay in bed with a pillow over your head. Oh and the odds of being hit by a piece of space junk now about to come down, 1 in 3200 (Defunct NASA satellite to crash to Earth this week | Reuters) so that pillow - wont help.Dave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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09-19-2011 07:14 PM #17
Gary,
With a track record of 47 years without a spectator death why are changes warranted at Reno? Air races are inherently dangerous, both to the participants and to those who choose to spectate. It is what is is, and IMO no change is warranted, either from internal or external points of view. If you disagree that is fine, but the venue has a very good safety record, blemished by one accident.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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09-19-2011 07:21 PM #18
first sorry for the loss of life . but it is a race bad things can happen fast. if i had front row box seats would i be there you bet i would. if my number came up and i had to go out i could not think of a better way to go . people die crossing the street geting hit by trucks we can not really make trucks safe to get hit by ? well some what but less its parked it is never going to be 100%. thing s can be looked in to for better safety ? well that is hard were do you stop? the real sad thing is that this maybe the last of the air show and for someone that loves the sound of a piston engine getting push to the max in a old war bird like The Sexy P51 that to bad if it gets to apoint were we can not hear or see the planes any more and look at them only in museum setting so there safe if you want safe then go look at them at the museum but if you want to see them get pushed to the max know what your risk is going to be .your just like the guy in the plane there is going to be some risk to youLast edited by pat mccarthy; 09-19-2011 at 07:27 PM.
Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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09-19-2011 07:46 PM #19
This discussion is all my fault.I didn't think it threw well enough when I posted the topic.I don't think I wrote it right either.I promise to all of you my intent was to have us pray for the families and a curiosity about things like if they use "G" suits,mechanics of the planes etc.
I am very sorry the way this turned out and will try to it better in other threads I start.
GaryGood Bye
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09-20-2011 06:47 AM #20
The leading cause of death is being borne. Nobody gets out alive.
Gary, you can't control where a thread goes as you're opening it up to other folks point of view. None of us sees anything exactly like another. Same for incidents like this. While it's sad, the perspective is wrong, as already pointed out above. If those people that died from this accident had lived, who's to say they wouldn't have slipped in the tub tomorrow and died of a head injury. We're all going to die of something some time.................can't ban everything. The last dead count I heard was 10, more people than that die each day on our streets and hyways, but people don't want to ban driving (well most of them anyway) because they get too much benefit from it. Most of those that are pontificating against the air races don't participate in any way so see no value, but would readily take away someone elses enjoyment, and risk taking. It's a creeping disease we seem to have.Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
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09-20-2011 11:23 AM #21
What made me furious the other day was an ABC reporter who was spewing something like "it's just like taking a 60 year old jalopy and hopping it up to race. anytime you modify something it becomes inheritly more dangerous." it was about this time that I started screaming at the TV and my mind went blank, so I'm not sure what else he said. The Reno accedent was very unfortunate, and my heart goes out to those who lost loved ones, but we of the human race like to do and see competative things with an element of danger in them, and sometimes those things bite us in the butt. I've been involved in several high risk sports, and most of them have bitten me back a time or two. would I change anything if I could do it again? hell no. the people who want to regulate fun out of existance can sit on the couch when they're 90 and wish they had done 1/2 of what I DID do. I want to be broke and totally worn out the day I die...... but not a day sooner
Russ
Thank you Roger. .
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