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gas and diesel is up because farmers and construction season filling supply tanks--

Heres an interesting site www.governmentgonewild.org I'm sure there are more of these just somthing to make you think

Well, the North Korean's launched their missile today and it set a new North Korean flight endurance record~!!!!!! This one made it 1 1/2 minutes flight time!!!!!

Scary! Someone yesterday told me to google united states concentration camps, what comes up is frightening! Hope it isn't real!

The Pres. doesn't often give anything that merits honest praise, but today with the release of his latest Federal Income Tax info he deserves a pat on the back.

No, not for the B.S. that his press secretary and the media stenographers will be touting...........crap like "his tax rate is higher than Mitt Romneys...." and so forth, but we can deal with that when real numbers are released by the Romney team. No, rather, he donated some $170k to the Fisher House charity for the children of fallen soldiers........in fact, he donated more to them than he paid in Income Tax! I guess that means even he knows that a private charity is a better steward of money than the Government he runs. Afterall, what he paid in Income Taxes would only cover about a 1/5 of a GSA meeting here in Vegas!

Way to go Prez, a very worthwhile charity indeed!!!!! Number I heard on Romney for the year is $21 mil which I'm sure gives him a lot of insight and understanding into what us commoners make!!! Think I'll email Mitt and tell him if he sponsors a race car for me I'll vote for him!!!!

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Number I heard on Romney for the year is $21 mil which I'm sure gives him a lot of insight and understanding into what us commoners make!!!

Yeah, that's some of the White House spin too. How about looking at it a more realistic way? Since that money is supposedly the result of investing his own earnings, it would appear he knows a good investment when he sees it. When the Pres. "invests" OUR earnings we get bankrupt pixie dust energy ventures like Solyndra, A123, and more. Remind me again, what's wrong with sound investing?

I was a bit flabergasted this morning to read a position piece in the paper from Richard Childress on the merits of increased ethanol content in our fuels. He made the point that the E15 that Nascar runs is a 113octane, produces more power than straight gasoline, and that it's a "green" fuel. He even got into the prodction stream, claiming that the "new" ethanol plants are super efficient, use less water, and provide a needed outlet for agriculture. His point was, "if it's good enough for Nascar it should be good enough for our street cars, too." There was no mention of the incompatibility of the higher alcohol content for older engines, including automotive, off-road, boats, motorcycles, ATV's, lawnmowers, and the list goes on and on and on; nor the problem that while it may be 113octane when fresh it will go into phase seperation, losing significant octane and becoming increasingly corrosive/erosive in short order. None of these issues are a concern for Nascar - Childress is just trying to paint the track green to improve the perception in the eyes of the critical tree huggers. I was disappointed with his diatribe, to say the least, especially considering that Kansas, Missouri and Iowa have been targeted by the EPA to be the first states to embrace E15.

I'd suppose that Childress is just mis-guided.. he has after all aligned himself with GM.. you know, Government Motors!

(running and ducking for cover)

He seems to forget that his engines are built specifically to run on E15 , unlike all of mine

Have you noticed the big green circle around the fuel fill? How about the stickers on the rollbar and seat sides in cars with onboard, interior cameras? All touting "American Ethanol". You don't get stickers on a car without buying space, either through contributions to the team, or to NASCAR as an organisation, often both. So, it's likely this is effectively a paid spokesperson statement more than anything else. Plus, Sunday is "Earth Day" and NASCAR is deep into the fear of political retribution potential against the sport.

Given that some of the Federal tax reduction subsidies have expired, and that over the past few years more and more disclosure of phony "science" is behind the notions of man caused global warming (or climate change if you prefer) the marketing arm of whatever association is behind the push for ethanol usage is probably gearing up for what they may fear in the future. They may be anticipating there are political changes in the wind for those who make any profit based on federal mandate rather than an earned position in the marketplace based on product merit. Again, alcohol fuel or fuel additive has been with us for most of a century, but didn't earn a place in the energy market based on features and benefits, it got a foothold, finally, based on political mandate. If, as some of us hope, the citizens of this country are coming around to the idea that borrowing at least half the money the Federal Govt spends each year is unsustainable, not to mention insane, they may fear that the mandates that benefit them will be some of the first to be chopped if fiscal discipline really occurs. So, they are turning to a "features/benefits" appeal, the standard approach to a sales formula.

My feel is that if they were forced to compete in the marketplace of energy products, ethanol would become a boutique product.......e.g. racing fuel.

Totalitarian states have repeated over and over in history, each driven by power hungry politicians bolstered by their toadies. Where's ANY historical example of a for profit corporate totalitarian state? Get a grip...................

Didn't think you could come up with one...........................thanks for proving my point.

Every once in awhile sanity prevails and some reality filters through. From an article that appeared this week:

British environmental expert James Lovelock now admits he was an “alarmist” regarding global warming — and says Al Gore was too.
Lovelock previously worked for NASA and became a guru to the environmental movement with his “Gaia” theory of the Earth as a single organism. In 2007 Time magazine named Lovelock one of its “Heroes of the Environment,” and he won the Geological Society of London’s Wollaston Medal in 2006 for his writings on the Gaia theory.
That year he wrote an article in a British newspaper asserting that “before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable.”
But in an interview this week with MSNBC, Lovelock said a book he is now writing will reflect his new opinion that global warming has not occurred as he had expected.
“The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing,” he said. “We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books — mine included — because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn’t happened.
“The climate is doing its usual tricks. There’s nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now.
“The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time. [The temperature] has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising. Carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that.
“We will have global warming, but it’s been deferred a bit.”
MSNBC reported: “He pointed to Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ and Tim Flannery’s ‘The Weather Makers’ as other examples of ‘alarmist’ forecasts of the future.”
Lovelock also declared in the interview that “as an independent and a loner,” he did not mind saying, “All right, I made a mistake,” adding that university or government scientists might fear that admission of such a mistake could jeopardize their funding.
In response to Lovelock’s interview, the Climate Depot website stated: “MSNBC, perhaps the most unlikely of news sources, reports on what may be seen as the official end of the manmade global warming fear movement.”




While that last sentence should prove to be true, and I wish it would, an awful lot of power manipulators have tasted the fruit of control and won't give it up easily. Will people wake up?

The way I look at it theres only one that knows whats going to happen and when, and "He's" not saying