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    Quote Originally Posted by billy zz View Post
    i am constantly amazed that the US has a border so porous that anybody with feet can just waltz in and get paid to live here.
    any other country on the planet would have machine gun emplacements spaced all along that border.
    instead we are footing the bill for the population of mexico.
    WTF?
    well no one loves us any more .so we pay in many ways. let them stay walk in... the list is very long of the money we pay out for love ???. Why this is a new way of thinking ??? hey it.s Ok it will not be any of my money(idealist liberal) tax more of the rich?? ...dumb ... The rich is anyone that still has a job with any income???? We borrow money from a country that just about has rope around are neck .but it.s ok the TV still works and still can Tex if gas stays lower then 3.50 eveyone is happy ? nice mind game ? Things to think of.. china will drill are oil and take the land to pay off a bad debt? i bet you they find alot of oil here in the US . The ones walking cross the boarder are only taking jobs No one want s there hard cheap workers . boy this sounds like some said when cotton and tobacco was only hand picked.
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    There is a legal immigration system, too, and surprisingly Hispanics are not the largest number!!! Here's and excerpt from an article by Scott Simon of NPR;

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    New Asian Immigrants To US Now Surpass Hispanics
    WASHINGTON June 19, 2012, 01:41 pm ET
    WASHINGTON (AP) — For the first time, the influx of Asians moving to the U.S. has surpassed that of Hispanics, reflecting a slowdown in illegal immigration while American employers increase their demand for high-skilled workers.

    An expansive study by the Pew Research Center details what it describes as "the rise of Asian-Americans," a highly diverse and fast-growing group making up roughly 5 percent of the U.S. population. Mostly foreign-born and naturalized citizens, their numbers have been boosted by increases in visas granted to specialized workers and to wealthy investors as the U.S. economy becomes driven less by manufacturing and more by technology.

    "Too often the policy debates on immigration fixate on just one part — illegal immigration," said Karthick Ramakrishnan, a political science professor at the University of California-Riverside and a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. "U.S. immigration is more diverse and broader than that, with policy that needs to focus also on high-skilled workers."

    "With net migration from Mexico now at zero, the role of Asian-Americans has become more important," he said.

    About 430,000 Asians, or 36 percent of all new immigrants, arrived in the U.S. in 2010, according to the latest census data. That's compared to about 370,000, or 31 percent, who were Hispanic.
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    Would almost appear to me that we are still exporting manufacturing jobs, and importing Asian workers to take technology jobs??? No wonder the unemployment numbers are so bleak!!!! These are LEGAL immigration numbers. Who is hiring all these new immigrants and making the prospect of immigrating to this country so appealing? Is our education system so poor that we don't have qualified people to take these technology jobs and business would rather higher new immigrants???

    So, if I have this right, legal Asian immigrants are taking technology jobs, and illegal Hispanics are taking the manual labor jobs that American workers won't do---do the unemployment numbers actually show any sort of real number or what????
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    well that may be true dave but the chinese are not hauling drugs over the fences .there military is not on US soil getting in to fire fights with boarder patrol. taken over boarder towns . buying guns .cutting heads off . kidnaping .killing famers/ranchers.many other things .its not the small river or walk over for them chinese sure most all of them are hard working people. seams like every time they talk about a lock down of the boarder they talk about how hard of a crossing longer and more dangerous for the good hard workers to come over and die out in no mans land it not fair to them . leave your front door open every thing is coming in your house
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat mccarthy View Post
    well that may be true dave but the chinese are not hauling drugs over the fences .there military is not on US soil getting in to fire fights with boarder patrol. taken over boarder towns . buying guns .cutting heads off . kidnaping .killing famers/ranchers.many other things .its not the small river or walk over for them chinese sure most all of them are hard working people
    At least the Chinese are coming in the front door ...They have worked here for hundreds of years they worked building the railroads and all over California back before the god rush.
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    Hey i have a great ideal... to cover a bad debt with china we could do a trade with them? we could give them Kalifornia .. this deal would be that they must take .nancy pelosi .Holly wood . San franisco ..OH hell that deal would cost us alot .. No one is that dumb still may be worth the cost ????
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    Not for nothing but this guy nails it:
    Retiring Dem: 'The People Have Gotten Dumber' | The Weekly Standard


    Retiring congressman Gary Ackerman, a Democrat from New York, reflects on his time in Congress.


    "Congressman Ackerman, you’ve been here 30 years. Can you define comity as it existed when you arrived versus how it exists now?," Bloomberg Businessweek asks.

    Ackerman responds: " Your premise is that comity exists now. It may not be entirely accurate. It used to be you had real friends on the other side of the aisle. It’s not like that anymore. Society has changed. The public is to blame as well. I think the people have gotten dumber. I don’t know that I would’ve said that out loud pre-my announcement that I was going to be leaving. [Laughter] But I think that’s true. I mean everything has changed. The media has changed. We now give broadcast licenses to philosophies instead of people. People get confused and think there is no difference between news and entertainment. People who project themselves as journalists on television don’t know the first thing about journalism. They are just there stirring up a hockey game."



    add some lazy unreliable workers, plant an American flag in the soil, welcome to the USA..
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    Yesterday being "Independence Day" it seems appropriate, albeit a day late, to glimpse at the Declaration of Independence, the document declaring our break with the overbearing Monarchy of England. Hmmmmmmm.........................revolting against a self imposing monarchy might need a renewal.

    "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it." --Declaration of Independence (1776)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter View Post
    Yesterday being "Independence Day" it seems appropriate, albeit a day late, to glimpse at the Declaration of Independence, the document declaring our break with the overbearing Monarchy of England. Hmmmmmmm.........................revolting against a self imposing monarchy might need a renewal.

    "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it." --Declaration of Independence (1776)

    Here's some trash talk about that very document by some members of our 'well informed' entertainment community:

    Shameful: Aaron Sorkin, Left celebrate Independence Day by slamming America; Update: Chris Rock joins in: ‘Happy white peoples independence day’; Don Cheadle laughs along; Zach Braff piles on | Twitchy

    The comments are even worse and of course our @#$%^&* POTUS did nothing to set them on their butts verbally
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    And this just in:

    A local biker was passing by the zoo when he saw a little girl leaning into the lion's cage. Suddenly, the lion grabs her by her jacket and tries to pull her inside to devour her right in front the little girl's screaming parents.

    The man runs to the cage, hits the lion square on the nose with a powerful punch. Whimpering from the pain the lion jumps back letting go of the little girl, allowing the man to bring her to her terrified parents, who thank him profusely.

    A reporter was watching the whole scene, and addressing the man, says: 'Sir, that was the most gallant and brave thing I've ever seen a man do in my whole life.'

    'Why, it was nothing,' said the biker, 'really, the lion was behind bars and I knew God would protect me just as He did Daniel in the lion’s den long, long ago. I just saw this little kid in danger, and acted as I felt was right.'

    'I noticed a bible in your pocket.' said the journalist.

    'Yes, I'm a Christian and was on my way to a bible study' the man replies.

    'Well, I'll make sure this doesn't go unnoticed. I'm a journalist, you know, and tomorrows papers will have this on the first page.'

    The journalist leaves. The following morning the man buys a paper to see if it indeed brings news of his actions, and reads, on the front page:

    'Right Wing Christian Fundamentalist Assaults African Immigrant and Steals His lunch.'

    We laugh - but this is where I see our media and sadly, they control the minds of so many in this country. God help us when the thinking man stops voting and we finally succumb to the propaganda machine we have allowed to be built in America.

    I'm nearly to the point where I can not stomach the local paper "The Oregonian" - as it has become a bastion for liberal ranting. If it were not for the crossword and local sports (I still love to follow the local high school kids..) I'd stop getting it all together. I read the letters to the editor and can not believe there are really so many liberal people in this fine state that was once home to loggers, fishermen and fundamental conservatives. I have to remind myself that of the hundreds of letters received, the editor picks-and-chooses a few that represent the paper's political personal slant and wants us to believe journalism is objective and non-biased; only reporting the facts.

    Can't even use it to start trash fires anymore as we have a "burning ban" in the metro area as per the State DEQ - the same folks who sniff your tail pipe every other year and charge you to tell you your late model fuel-injected, computer controlled car is running fine! Three "Smart Cars" and two "all electric" in the parking lot of maybe thirty cars this week.

    I appreciate the wisdom here at CHR - seems the older I get the more I believe what my ol' dad use to say, "You can never really trust a man who doesn't work on his own car."

    Bit of a rant -

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    In response, Glenn - we just gave up the local paper, The Schenectady Gazette for the very reasons you mention. I've been either reading or taking via subscription since Li'l Abner and Joe DiMaggio and went to grade and Jr High with the current owners. The alternative is the Albany Times-Union which, if possible and a Hearst paper, even worse.

    Now, something to make you feel even "better":

    The following are 70 facts that Barack Obama does not want you to see….

    $3.59 - When Barack Obama entered the White House, the average price of a gallon of gasoline was $1.85. Today, it is$3.59.

    22 - It is hard to believe, but today the poverty rate for children living in the United States is a whopping 22 percent.

    23 - According to U.S. Representative Betty Sutton, an average of 23 manufacturing facilities permanently shut down in the United States every single day during 2010.

    30 - Back in 2007, about 10 percent of all unemployed Americans had been out of work for 52 weeks or longer. Today, that number is above 30 percent.

    32 - The amount of money that the federal government gives directly to Americans has increased by 32 percent since Barack Obama entered the White House.

    35 - U.S. housing prices are now down a total of 35 percent from the peak of the housing bubble.

    40 - The official U.S. unemployment rate has been above 8 percent for 40 months in a row.

    42 - According to one survey, 42 percent of all American workers are currently living paycheck to paycheck.

    48 - Shockingly, at this point 48 percent of all Americans are either considered to be “low income” or are living in poverty.

    49 - Today, an astounding 49.1 percent of all Americans live in a home where at least one person receives benefits from the government.

    53 - Last year, an astounding 53 percent of all U.S. college graduates under the age of 25 were either unemployed or underemployed.

    60 - According to a recent Gallup poll, only 60 percent of all Americans say that they have enough money to live comfortably.

    The rest of them are here: 70 Facts President Obama Doesn’t Want You To Know | Yolohub

    I assume that someone has 'vetted' this info, but much is consistent with other information I've seen

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    Just changing who the President is and what party he belongs to will change little if any of these problems.... The problem is much more involved then simply putting Etch a Sketch in as President, the whole Government is approaching FUBAR!!!! Filling in the blanks with a different name won't accomplish anything. Nobody from any party has actually proposed any kind of solution, just a matter of seeing who can sling the most dirt!

    Heck, I'm beginning to think that Post #497 contains the only real solution!
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    Heck, I'm beginning to think that Post #497 contains the only real solution!

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    i have a hi tech stone pitcher and a cannon that shoots 4.500 bore pistons out of it it is a smooth bore job i keep the rings on the pistons when i shoot it
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    This arrived in my inbox today...very tongue-in-cheek and taking the p##s...but hey; I as a Kiwi thought it was funny.

    (If anyone's offended I'll delete it; but I think you'd have to be pretty thin skinned to not see the humour!)

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    To the citizens of the United States of America from Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II:

    In light of your immediate failure to financially manage yourselves and also in recent years your tendency to elect incompetent Presidents of the USA and therefore not able to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. (You should look up 'revocation' in the Oxford English Dictionary.)

    Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except Kansas , which she does not fancy).

    Your new Prime Minister, David Cameron, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections.

    Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated sometime next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

    To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

    1. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour,' 'favour,' 'labour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix '-ize' will be replaced by the suffix '-ise.'Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up 'vocabulary'). (I love that one)


    2. Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as ''like' and 'you know' is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take into account the reinstated letter 'u'' and the elimination of '-ize.' ' (I love that one too)

    3. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.

    4. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used for shooting grouse. If you can't sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not ready to shoot grouse.

    5. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

    6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

    7. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it.)

    8.You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.

    9. The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. New Zealand beer is also acceptable, as New Zealand is pound for pound the greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth - see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.

    10. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie Macdowell attempt English dialogue in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.

    11. You will cease playing American football. There are only two kinds of proper football; one you call soccer, and rugby (dominated by the New Zealanders). Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).

    12. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America . Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the Australians (World dominators) first to take the sting out of their deliveries.

    13. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.

    14. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due (backdated to 1776).

    15. Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups, with saucers, and never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; plus strawberries (with cream) when in season.

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    Our self appointed monarch, Barack I, ain't gonna like this.

    Obviously Her Majesty didn't listen to those recordings of his brilliant speeches he giffted her to gain the proper respect for his awesomeness dude.
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