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only thing i care about is come next year obama is gone.

Snopes is not a reliable source of facts. They are a part of the liberal left, hiding in the wings pretending to be neutral, but financed by George Soros who is a big Obama supporter. Snopes has been caught in several blatant lies, one recently regarding Supreme Court rulings. I'll never trust anything Snopes says again, regardless the subject.

The fact that every president has used the EO process is moot. The question is "What did they use the EO for?" Obama has used EO's to undermine the very foundation of our government, for personal gain.

Originally Posted by Evolvo

It's good to do a little research before you accept the latest scare tactic. Check it out:

snopes.com: National Defense Resources Preparedness



OCCUPY CHR

That's rich! After your comments above about "cuts" for various vote buying programs above in the Ryan crafted budget. A modicum of honest research would inform that it constrains the projected growth rates, yet still increases funding over time. Also that budget must be voted upon by elected representatives of the people after the oportunity for debate and amendment, unlike an EO. But then, since your guys have quashed the budget process for the past 4 years what does the constitutional requirement of submitting an annual budget really mean to the left? Move along.......nothing to see here..........these aren't the hypocracies you're looking for.........

Alan, thanks again.................to which I will reply in kind..................................HEY, look at this shiny thing over here......................

Jon Stewart a serious news source ................ OH boy that's rich! Clem Kiddelhopper is a more informed resource.


Jon Stewart Stop your killing me.

obamas objective is to reduce the u.s. standard of living and super power standing and show the anti u.s. countries that he has brought down America so he can end up running the U.N. he thinks he can rule the world he thinks America is a colonial power that must be defeated if you think I am wrong read his book the dreams of my father you will see how he was raised if you want to understand him see the movie 2016 this guy will be vary dangerous if he gets a second term there wont be any thing about America that you will recognize....ted

Originally Posted by Evolvo

"Snopes is not a reliable source of facts." Only when they don't support your side. I suppose you get all your reliable facts from Fox news?

No, I tend to be skeptical of just about all of the "news" programs, as they all seem to be extremists, one side or the other, as opposed to simply reporting truth. Of course, I tend towards a very logical analysis, where there is truth and then there is everything else. So far I have found FactCheck to be fairly neutral in their analysis and reporting of the trash flying around these days, but I don't trust any one place 100%. From "The Thinker Blog",

The bottom line is that fact-checking sites such as FactCheck.org, for all their attempts to be neutral and unbiased, are staffed by real live human beings who suffer from the same cognitive biases, logical fallacies, and political worldviews as all other humans do. It seems to me they are correct and fair the majority of the time, but occasionally they may stray from neutrality just a bit.

Another quote from "The Thinker Blog" that I like,

Without good critical thinking skills, the public’s opinions on important issues are formed for them by others — by the media, by popularity and peer pressure, and by authority figures such as professors, politicians, and “the experts”. Critical thinking can enable everyday people to arm themselves against the persuasive powers of pundits, demagogues, and other propaganda artists.

I particularly like their article,
Who is fact-checking the fact-checkers? | The Thinker

Just changing President's won't change anything!!!!! If Congress can't get anything done we might as well have Barney Rubble in the White House!!! Our government of the people and by the people is a thing of the past, until voters start putting people in Congress who want to do what is best for the country and not just what the party line says is best for their party nothing will change. Congress should not be a power struggle to see which party can control, it should be REPRESENTATIVES of the populace who's only goal is to do what's best for the entire country, not just what's best for their largest campaign contributors......

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Just changing President's won't change anything!!!!! If Congress can't get anything done we might as well have Barney Rubble in the White House!!! Our government of the people and by the people is a thing of the past, until voters start putting people in Congress who want to do what is best for the country and not just what the party line says is best for their party nothing will change. Congress should not be a power struggle to see which party can control, it should be REPRESENTATIVES of the populace who's only goal is to do what's best for the entire country, not just what's best for their largest campaign contributors......

But Dave,
When you have a President who's mis-using the Executive Order tool to the extent that President Obama has, it is indicative of a bigger problem than Congress not working together. This President is smart enough to have found ways to get his way regardless what the Constitution says, and regardless what the Law says. He has a definite agenda, and he's working toward that agenda. I'm sorry, but in this instance Congress is the sole entity protecting us from an out of control President. God help us if they start working with him.

Originally Posted by ted dehaan

obamas objective is to reduce the u.s. standard of living and super power standing

I believe this is the objective of big money and as a consequence it is the objective of those who dance as puppets of big money, just as Barry dances to the tunes of George Soros.

I'm not eloquent like some writers on this board and I'm probably not nearly as intelligent or educated, but I believe that in order to control the masses, the socio-economics of each country and the people in those countries must be leveled so that all commerce can be handled with the same currency. It has happened in Europe with the Euro and I am of the belief that there are plans to institute the Amero in the Western Hemisphere. Big money sees that there must be a continuation of influx of indigents into the United States in order to "water down" this society and begin the degradation that is necessary to accomplish the melding of countries and individuals from the tip of Argentina to the Yukon of Canada. These indigents will be much easier to control than those who have the advantage of a good education. And by the way, these are not "Mexicans" who are infiltrating this country and Canada, they're Central American and South American Indians. Very low income, uneducated Indians who know nothing about how economies work and care little, as long as they can house and feed their families. Getting food stamps and free housing from the U.S. Government is a heck of a lot better deal than what they were used to in Honduras, so yeah, they're going to vote for the guy who will continue to hand out the freebies. I would too in their shoes. So would you.

So the fact is, our federal government does not want to stop the inflow of people from the South. NTFDAY and I have talked about this. He reckons that a two-man team of Marines with a 50 caliber machine gun, spaced evenly along the border with Mexico would do the deed. I was just doin' some figurin'. If the border is 3169 kilometers and you could place a team every 500 meters, so that they would have a 250 meter fan to the left and a 250 meter fan to the right, you'd need a total of 6,340 nests. Rotating a 2-man team each 8 hours would require 38,000 Marines. It would bring this influx of Indians to a screeching halt and also would bring the influx of drugs to a screeching halt. To pay for this, we could disband the U.S. Border Patrol. They're making little or no progress anyway and the desk jockeys are only wasting taxpayer dollars. These guys make a hell of a lot more loot than the average United States Marine and although that's a shame, it does begin to look good on the bottom line when the majority of persons protecting the border are making less than the current crop of Border Patrol dickwads. All of us know that there is money changing hands at the border control stations. That would come to a screeching stop too. Every driver of every truck coming into this country would be responsible for unloading his truck for inspection or turn it around and go back into Mexico. Enough is too much!!!!

That's how I see it. If you see it differently, then trade your thoughts with me and help me out.

"Rotating a 2-man team each 8 hours would require 38,000 Marines", I'm sure there are that many over seas that would like to come home for a tour of duty

Stop whining Allen, so typical of lefty throwing a fit & calling people names cause folks counter with facts, to the dreams . If the Deomrats ideas were so great we would not be where we are right now. Is it all there fault, let me say no way there are plenty of WEAK Conservatives in the ranks as well helping your causes ...... sad to say but it is reality however.

I get the biggest kick out of lefty, he runs around hair on fire screaming about lies, crooks and racism old lefty if king of all those labels. Lefty is funny but dangerous never forget that.

Alan, you must have missed the meeting where you were assigned to be my whipping boy. Ted is someone else's assignment..........but I can't remember who.....

We each have our own perspective on issues as well as what "ideas" should have a priority for rebuttal. Most of the stuff you choose to post is what I consider the typical, mainstream leftist propaganda. You have the advantage of a wide band of what looks like "support" because what you espouse is the meme for most of the print, audio, and video media. Echoed by much of politician purchasing wealthy, academe, and the entertainment industry. You guys have the big megaphone (or echo chamber, you choose) that belies your actual representation as a portion of our society. Your ideas, information, conclusions, whatever you choose to call it, ride the wave of a purported Goebbel's quote, "Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." I know............gee that's harsh! Well let's look at one of my favorites that you pulled out again in the past few days. G.W. Bush destroyed the economy (not an exact quote, but a representation). (just to set a tone of context, this is not intended as a defense of the former Pres. it's to point out the shallowness of that assertion and it's juxtaposition to how Pres. Obama's performance is measured by your side) I have challenged you on this before and you've not replied. No lefty has ever tried to answer the question: If a village idiot (as you guys so often like to portray him.............Is that racist? Hmmmm) from Texas can single handedly exercise the vast powers of the Presidency to destroy our economy, how is it that the worlds most articulate and brilliant Messiah (again, the left's representation) can't wield those same powers and right the economy in just as short order? (I'm sure that's racist!) Yet that is the meme. Surveys show that a wide band of our population believes that, even after four years of the Obama Presidency. True, the numbers are diminishing, but slowly. Yet I have never heard one of you folks from the left tell us EXACTLY what actions the former Pres. did to destroy the economy all by himself. The tax cuts that were enacted along with a Democrat controlled Congress? No, federal data show that actual revenues increased after the tax cuts that cut across the entire income spectrum (NOT just the rich as is often lied about). Oh, then it's an "unfunded" war...............a war approved by Democrats in Congress as well as Republicans.......and Congress "controls" the check book........not the Pres, And since (often not mentioned because it doesn't fit the propaganda narative), Pres. Bush had to deal with a Dem. controlled congress for about half his term, they could have shut off the funding anytime they wanted to..........but didn't. So, those two excuses don't wash....................so what was it that Bush did exactly to kill the economy? Oh yeah, he eliminated regulations....................Really? Show me where the Federal Register EVER shrunk in size for the elimination of regulation(s). And here we are today with The Most Brilliant President Ever, whining himself, and supported by the deeply entrenched communication network, telling us that his abilities to fix the economy are thwarted by those pesky Republicans. You know, the ones who controll only one house of Congress, and have done so for only 1 1/2 of the 3 1/2 years Obama has been in office. And in those first two years, the voters of this country gave Pres. Obama a very strong majority of his own party members in both houses of congress, a situation that, under the powers vested by our Constitution, gives the President the absolute highest level of authority and potential power allowed. President Bush NEVER had that amount of support from Congress................yet you want us to believe he destroyed the country/economy, yet O is powerless?

The point is I don't choose to address things that lean toward what I perceive as conspiracy theory (conspiracies do occur, though not as often as either end of the political spectrum likes to think, so they may sometimes be valid). We have enough debunkable tripe spewed by the left to challenge............and are facing an overwhelming propaganda mechanism..............we should do a better job of focusing our efforts for effectiveness sake.

if one simply reads the history of the democratic party it becomes painfully simple. it has become a party of the poor, for the poor , and by the poor . this is exactly how obama got elected . democrats see themselves as the all high savor of the masses . the party has lost it's roots and it's way . much as the republican party has . we simply cannot afford all the entitlement programs . sorry , we dont have the money. and there are not enough rich folks to tax to fix it. although the gimme folks like the sound of it . the answer is in getting people back to work paying taxes and contributing to the economy instead of being a burden on it.

allen why don't you get a copy of your leaders book and read it or better yet get a copy of books on tape he actually reads it himself so you can't say he was misquoted or taken out of context then you can take the blinders off and apologize to me .....ted p.s you talk about insanity you won't like the names I 'I'll start calling you