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To be seen but not heard is golden when it comes to moderating. For me to have to deal with complaints taking me away from some very valuable time with my family, especially on a site where we are mostly adults is ridiculous.

You want to talk politics, this is the only thread

I've had to delete 5 posts and two new political threads that have spilled out from this one today, the bottom line that all of you know is that personal attacks will not be tolerated. Post a personal attack like those I removed today and you will be banned permanently.

You do not want to see what happens when I get angry




Enough said.

Somebody email me when this thread dies.... Now that it's gone from attacking the message to attacking the messenger it's killing the site. How many more people do we want to see leave or just quit posting on CHR because of the absurdity of some of the posts on this thread??? I'm outa here.

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Somebody email me when this thread dies.... Now that it's gone from attacking the message to attacking the messenger it's killing the site. How many more people do we want to see leave or just quit posting on CHR because of the absurdity of some of the posts on this thread??? I'm outa here.

Sigh........This is the type of post we were afraid of when we left this thread open. People are passionate about their political views, eventually noses get bent out of joint.......

We will call this strike two for the thread. Strike three and it gets locked down without another chance for a political thread to ever show it's face on CHR ever again.


Bill S.

To make sure you understand " They must think" was directed at the government not members, however reading it I can see how you could got that impression.

Originally Posted by pepi

To make sure you understand " They must think" was directed at the government not members, however reading it I can see how you could got that impression.

Yes I took it the wrong way!! My apoligies!! Thanks for clearing that up!! Pete

Yeah it was pointed at the media and the constant story line changes coming out of DC. I understand why it had upset folks the way I worded it, car guy fuba...

The Video That Killed Obama's Re-Election
somewhat funny but true

Subject: Read and weep...PLEASE PASS ON



This should be on the front page of every newspaper.

A very interesting column.. COMPLETELY NEUTRAL
Be sure to Read the Poem at the end.

Charley Reese's final column for the Orlando Sentinel...
He has been a journalist for 49 years.
He is retiring and this is HIS LAST COLUMN.

Be sure to read the Tax List at the end.

This is about as clear and easy to understand as it can be. The article below is completely neutral,
neither anti-republican or democrat. Charlie Reese, a retired reporter for the Orlando Sentinel,
has hit the nail directly on the head, defining clearly who it is that in the final analysis
must assume responsibility for the judgments made that impact each one of us every day.
It's a short but good read. Worth the time. Worth remembering!

545 vs. 300,000,000 People
-By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it's because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan ...

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish;
to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators,
to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.
Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like
"the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from
doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

What you do with this article now that you have read it... is up to you.
This might be funny if it weren't so true.
Be sure to read all the way to the end:

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table,
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for
peanuts anyway!

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid...

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
'Taxes drove me
to my doom...'

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Sales Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax


STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What in the heck happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'

I hope this goes around THE USA at least 545 times!!! YOU can help it get there!!!

GO AHEAD. . . BE AN AMERICAN!!!

Lots of commentary and spin today about last night's debate, that actually resembled a real debate for a change. Not going to try to add to the scoring sheets that are everywhere. But one question does come to mind: I wonder how Jim Lehrer feels about being the latest in a long line of scape goats.....................

Interesting how the major media is saying the potus won the debate, and the internet says he may have lost the election.

i have said all along that what is important is jobs. obama thinks he can tax us out of this. romney knows that expanding the tax base will bring in more revenue . i absolutely loved the debate . it showed a candidate with a plan and a president without a clue. get federal government to hell out of the states business. same thing perry has told washington for 4 years.

Originally Posted by shine

i have said all along that what is important is jobs. obama thinks he can tax us out of this. romney knows that expanding the tax base will bring in more revenue . i absolutely loved the debate . it showed a candidate with a plan and a president without a clue. get federal government to hell out of the states business. same thing perry has told washington for 4 years.

We've mentioned this before, but it bears repeating a very appropriate quote:

We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
Winston Churchill

Whats real interesting is Donald Trump is small business. Makes me feel kinda smaller

got lucky filled up the gas tank yesterday at cosco 4.07 per today it jumped to 4.26 not bad .19 in one day news reports the price in no. cal. at 5.89 WHAT A GREAT COUNTRY WE LIVE IN .....ted

Originally Posted by ted dehaan

got lucky filled up the gas tank yesterday at cosco 4.07 per today it jumped to 4.26 not bad .19 in one day news reports the price in no. cal. at 5.89 WHAT A GREAT COUNTRY WE LIVE IN .....ted

Ain't it the truth? Here we are, sitting on more crude than the entire middle east has, and the lawmakers are sittin' on their hands. I'd like to wake up on Wednesday morning after the election to learn that all 435 of the nutballs have been replaced. Romney said last night that he would bring in the pipeline from Canada. Yeahhhhhhhhhh, buddy.