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Originally Posted by 1gary

Charlie-please do remember the time when we all respected the person who was President and the office of the Presidency no matter who was President.

Thank You.

yes I'm old enough to remember Ike.

and I do respect the office of the presidency. its just the guy in it I have no respect for. We could use a president that can't or dosen't need to be bought by big business and dare I say unions

I guess I'm not as old as Charlie... HMmmm.. my Dad always taught me how to tell when a politician was lying....
yep, the lips are moving.

And whenever you see the word incumbent next to a name on a ballot, you MUST vote for the other guy/gal! If the rest of you would've followed my example, we'd never have gotten into this mess! 8-)

I honestly think you have a plan

Well, I cannot say that many of my choices are ever elected.. sadly enough..

Originally Posted by 34_40

Well, I cannot say that many of my choices are ever elected.. sadly enough..

seem to have the same problem hopefully not this time

Romney flipped flopped on three issues for political gains,not core believes in his history.Two big ones was abortion and a deal he made with Kennedy that took 400 million out of the Bush budget which certainly helped get us in the current jam we are now in.It was historic because that deal was after Kennedy handed Romney his butt in a election showing everyone Romney isn't ready for a national election/position.

It is kind of telling because of the above why it has taken sooooo long for Romney to state his positions on anything.Could it be his team needed time to properly fit him with a ear pc so he knew what to say??.

Everyone put so much value in the fact he is in business when his dealings in that certainly isn't with "clean hands". Also he is once again flip flopping about the national debt when he helped it get to where it is. He was directly involved it that. Oh yeah,his state health care plan mirrors Obama's. These are the facts about the candidate. His positions are that for political gains and certainly not core believes.

gary how about making a list on obama ? just two for mitt ? you say national debt must not be a big deal as obama could have dealed with that . but instead jamed a heath care plane threw . but still has no plan for the budget. there is no easy answer on abortion over the years i changed my mind on this so it.s not the only deal breaker for me. funny that some adult pepole have no self control over there body but you want the government to pay for something thats not planed .well thats not the government that.s paying .that is US paying.... WE HAVE NO MONEY for starter big bird and can help obama pack is bags

Have you noticed that most people, especially Politicians, will try to tear their adversary down instead of standing on their own accomplishments. That goes for domestic quarrels, debates and this thread. Is that just the way the "Western World" functions or are we so concerned with the bad attributes that we don't care about the good ones?

Originally Posted by 1gary

Romney flipped flopped on three issues for political gains,not core believes in his history.Two big ones was abortion and a deal he made with Kennedy that took 400 million out of the Bush budget which certainly helped get us in the current jam we are now in.It was historic because that deal was after Kennedy handed Romney his butt in a election showing everyone Romney isn't ready for a national election/position.

It is kind of telling because of the above why it has taken sooooo long for Romney to state his positions on anything.Could it be his team needed time to properly fit him with a ear pc so he knew what to say??.

Everyone put so much value in the fact he is in business when his dealings in that certainly isn't with "clean hands". Also he is once again flip flopping about the national debt when he helped it get to where it is. He was directly involved it that. Oh yeah,his state health care plan mirrors Obama's. These are the facts about the candidate. His positions are that for political gains and certainly not core believes.

telling because of the above why it has taken sooooo long for Romney to state his positions on anything.Could it be his team needed time to properly fit him with a ear pc (nope it was a hankie/snot rag) so he knew what to say??.
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Obozo has had 4 years to do the same and not been able to do that, what's your point?

Everyone put so much value in the fact he is in business when his dealings in that certainly isn't with "clean hands".

You do not know this and are unable to state any provable fact regarding this. You open the door and throw in these bombs. It is one thing to say these kind of things but you must have a fact or two to back it up.

If I were drag racing you or your crew, and you kept waxing me. Would it be fair of me to say 1gary is a cheater cause he wins races ?
People would be asking me is that all you got, and rightly so.

This is not in line with subjects that are currently appearing in this thread, but I'm curious about something.

On Oct.1 a good friend sent me an email that contained a link to the "Obama 2016" video. My wife and I were able to see the movie in its entirety. Jane suggested that if we wanted to forward it we should do so quickly because it is certain to be taken off the internet.

We forwarded it to maybe two dozen people. A few got it but most of them only got a bunch of advertisements.

I understand copyright protection and I'm all for it, but who has the authority to "pull the plug" so to speak, and how do they do it? Maybe the producers? However it is done, it happened quickly and effectively.

Jim

I went to see it in the theaters when it first came out it's very informative I strongly recommend you see it. google 2016 the movie it will tell you what theaters have it in your area and times it explains exactly what drives obama.....ted

The "very" same thing happened to me Jim but I think it was because of copyrights and not politics.
I made the mistake of saving it to watch later and ended up not being able to view it here at home.

I was only half way convinced that my wife was right. Her sister is a Dem/Lib - so she has had a fair number of years to define this. My wife says that Dem/Libs can do fine in any argument - that is until you can confront them with facts. Then they either change the subject or excuse themselves and leave (think - ostrich with its head stuck in the sand). We have presented our Dem/Lib friends with real life facts, but they just don't hear what we say. I honestly DO NOT care what peoples political leanings are, as long as they take the time to review their position with legitimate research with real and unbiased sources, make a conscious decision that this is the best way for them - THEN VOTE!!! If that person does NOT vote, as far as I'm concerned, he loses his right to any comments, here, in person or any where else. He is just another uninformed and uncaring American (and I think I can't say citizen any longer with so many UDDs* )

Gary - I have to take some exception to your posts. You live in NY State as I do. We have been ruled by Democrats for now ~6 years(Spitzer/Paterson?/A. Cuomo). In that time, this state has just been reported today to have fallen to the worst state, number 50, as having the poorest business climate, even below Calif. and Michigan. Additionally, you chose the Thruway to belabor - guess what - after last years 15% increase in tolls, it will now again be increased by another 45%. An example - about 3 weeks ago I traveled with my 34' trailer pulled by my F350 153.5 miles (Exit 42 to Exit 27). That toll was $27.15 or ~18 cents/mile. When the increase takes effect, it will be about $39.40 or ~26 cents/mile. Recall who is governor? Recall which party controls the Assembly? The Senate is controlled by the Republicans, but there are a couple that wander over the line - my local guy, MacDonald, but he just lost the primary and will not run again along with a Western NY guy.

OK, that Truway - now, go take a ride in the country and see how many family farms have fallen to ruin. Mario Cuomo was responsible for the 'death' taxes that are often more then a farm can be sold for in this climate.

NY City - Bloomberg. Yeah, I know an independant, after being a lifelong Dem, switching to GOP then away.

I can go on and on. My county, Saratoga, is one of the few solvent county in NY State and is run by - guess who, the GOP who have created a good business climate for companies to build. We also have the 4th lowest of 64 counties unemployment 6.9% in NY State - the rest of the counties above Saratoga have small populations.

Oh well, said enough!!

Gary - I just wish that you would do that unbiased information research, especially dealing with NY State

(My apologies to others that may live in CA and MI - and I'm originally from MI)

*UnDocumented Democrats

Originally Posted by pepi

telling because of the above why it has taken sooooo long for Romney to state his positions on anything.Could it be his team needed time to properly fit him with a ear pc (nope it was a hankie/snot rag) so he knew what to say??.
"

Obozo has had 4 years to do the same and not been able to do that, what's your point?

Everyone put so much value in the fact he is in business when his dealings in that certainly isn't with "clean hands".

You do not know this and are unable to state any provable fact regarding this. You open the door and throw in these bombs. It is one thing to say these kind of things but you must have a fact or two to back it up.

If I were drag racing you or your crew, and you kept waxing me. Would it be fair of me to say 1gary is a cheater cause he wins races ?
People would be asking me is that all you got, and rightly so.

Actually two PBS stations had documentaries going on at the same time about each candidate yesterday and their political and life histories.To capsulize Rooney's wealth and business success you don't these days get that rich without making deals with the devil. But there are facts to stand behind what I am saying..............

Just the mere fact he has flip-flopped on issues for political gain is more than enough proof he has no core believes and is a sell out party puppet saying what they want. They gutted him and he isn't even on the other side of the belt-way yet!!. A leader??. I think not.

UDD... I love it! 8-)