Thread: tin-man has some questions, it begins.....

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Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

While all the good fun poking about "older, sedate...." folks is entertaining, it sounds like a preference is forming in John's mind. This goes back to where we started on this discussion, the newb needs to do a fair amount of "research" to refine and define past an initial stirring in the gut that one particular car might evoke.

While I generally agree with Dave W. on most of his comments, I have a slightly different experience with the young rodders of today. These are not to be confused with the rat rod guys, these are the ones who have embraced what we call the traditional style. Very few of them have much interest in T buckets, though those are indeed very economical builds/buys. They are really into the next cheapest old Ford.............the Model A. In the course of recycling parts through my garage I've met quite a few of these guys the past couple years. They're eager, some very well informed, and have a passion (some almost blindly so) for older style hot rods. I hope I live long enough to see if their tastes will evolve as their skill level and wallets grow much as ours did.

As for big block vs small block in a T bucket, you could always "split the difference" and do as this fellow in Henderson, NV did: Double Trouble Hot Rod

Re: Double Trouble Hot Rod-------------------------OMG. nuff said.

Don, DA34GUY------err,when I said bad-ass, well its like this, I didn't mean anything quite like the Double Trouble Beast and I say Beast with the greatest of respect for the builder. However the Mickey Thompson tires with Billet Specialties wheels 15x14 rear, I can see on my version of the Old Crow deuce, in Dave's "Valencia Orange Yellah" waddya think?

Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man

Originally Posted by tin-man

Re: Double Trouble Hot Rod-------------------------OMG. nuff said.

Don, DA34GUY------err,when I said bad-ass, well its like this, I didn't mean anything quite like the Double Trouble Beast and I say Beast with the greatest of respect for the builder. However the Mickey Thompson tires with Billet Specialties wheels 15x14 rear, I can see on my version of the Old Crow deuce, in Dave's "Valencia Orange Yellah" waddya think?

Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man

Yep, sure looks good to me...... tin-man





With thank's to Don, Dave and all the guys for showing me the way, to be continued......

Don, DA34GUY------err,when I said bad-ass, well its like this, I didn't mean anything quite like the Double Trouble Beast and I say Beast with the greatest of respect for the builder. However the Mickey Thompson tires with Billet Specialties wheels 15x14 rear, I can see on my version of the Old Crow deuce, in Dave's "Valencia Orange Yellah" waddya think?

Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man[/QUOTE]

John,
If yer writin the check, I'll throw em on there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But the 1's on the "Old Crow" are 17 x 11

Originally Posted by DA34GUY

John,
If yer writin the check, I'll throw em on there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But the 1's on the "Old Crow" are 17 x 11

I bought 15x10 Cragar's for mine, and I seriously wish I had gone with either 16's or 17's for the rear. 15" tires are becoming much harder to find - Coker bought the BFG molds for the 70 series wide ovals of the past, so they're available, but at a price Most of the OEM's are >17" these days, even on the light trucks where we seem to find some of the bigger meats for the rear. Brake calipers are also tight on 15's. You might want to go with Don's experience on this one, but like he says, if you're writin' the check...

Originally Posted by rspears

I bought 15x10 Cragar's for mine, and I seriously wish I had gone with either 16's or 17's for the rear.

Ditto! X2.

I guess for once I can be a smug a#$

Go up a couple of posts and you can see how the 31" tall tire on 17x8 rears fits the wheel well (and as a plus, it also clears the Wilwood parking brake - which the 15's didn't)

after using many 15s over the years, I won't again--brake clearance, total lack of hi per speed rated tires--there are lots of 17s that are available in speed rated tires that make big/little with 195/15 fronts look right

Dave,
You smug a#$!!

Yep, the only way I got the 31's is by buying BFG P285x70R15's from Coker, and he's quite proud of them since he's the only deal in town. What I found is that the "look" for bigs & littles needs 5"to7" drop, back to front. I did 31's & 24's, but I didn't need to deal with any stinkin' fenders But why worry?? Don will make it right for you if you just leave him alone and feed him progress payments

Smug A_ _'s and "Progress Payments! 2 of the mainstays in this hobby!

Originally Posted by DA34GUY

Don, DA34GUY------err,when I said bad-ass, well its like this, I didn't mean anything quite like the Double Trouble Beast and I say Beast with the greatest of respect for the builder. However the Mickey Thompson tires with Billet Specialties wheels 15x14 rear, I can see on my version of the Old Crow deuce, in Dave's "Valencia Orange Yellah" waddya think?

Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man

John,
If yer writin the check, I'll throw em on there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But the 1's on the "Old Crow" are 17 x 11[/QUOTE]

Err, well, the comments regarding the wheel/tires size were made without any prior knowledge of the exact size Don installed on the Old Crow and so inadvertently I made an incorrect observation since they looked about the same to me. What I should have said is the width of the rear tires on the Double Trouble Beast was appealing to me, so if 17x15's are available I would prefer to have those installed. Don, when its time to pull the trigger, can that size be installed or would that detract from the overall traditional look? Cheers, John ,AKA, tin-man

oops, double post. sorry. tin-man

[QUOTE=rspears;456613]John,
Regarding a deuce and "necessary" power, my '33 highboy coupe is pushing about 425Hp and 475ftlbs, and I can tell you it is a handful to drive at WOT.

Roger, please help me understand WOT, thanks, John, AKA, tin-man

wide open throttle

with something like 17x15 rear tires you would need a narrowed frame and a pro street type approach--not traditional and in my opinion not good looking--stay with something no more than 10 or 11 wide

Originally Posted by jerry clayton

wide open throttle

Jerry, thanks for this. The issues with us newbies is we don't always catch on to the acronyms. Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man