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08-21-2012 05:55 PM #16
I'll chime in.. this horse ain't been beat enough yet.
There are those times in every kids life, when even knowing right from wrong, something happens and you just gotta touch! You just GOT TO!! You NEED to feel it on your fingers, Don't know why.. You just HAVE TO!
Dad would do more than warm my rear-end! Mom made sure I had my head straight! But that didn't always matter! And after I got burned (in this instance) my Dad would "pat" my bottom and then explain why he didn't want me to touch. But it was to late I HAD TO TOUCH!
But, in this example at least, RSpears was probably feelin' awful that some silly kid got burnt. And this whole topic is really a microcosm of what I call the stupid (choose 1) American/Human syndrome.. You know the one. The whole stickin' your foot under a runnin' lawn-mower, or, stickin' your hand down a clogged snowblower or any number of foolish things we (choose 1) Americans / Humans do that then requires some engineering devices that stops a (choose1) American / Human from hurting themselves or others with their (choose 1) ignorance/foolishness/carelessness.
Here in Mass., those headers are not allowed! Yet guys have'em / run'em and I guess if someone gets hurt around them / because of them , that owner accepts the liability and when he loses his car(s) / house(s) all because he wanted "the look"... then I guess he better be a big boy when he signs the paper / titles over and pays for the lawyer(s)!
Ranting over... putting the box away for one of you next! 8-)
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08-21-2012 06:34 PM #17
the ONLY thing good about our new home location is that we are closer to the "youngins" (all ages) and none of them are further than an hour away now - - - - - I plan on taking full advantage of that too.
" I'm drinking from my saucer, 'cause my cup is overflowed ! "
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08-21-2012 07:54 PM #18
LOL "Here in Mass., those headers are not allowed!" But it is OK for a fat Kennedy to drown some girl in his car and never spend a day in jail.. 34_40 hope you see the humor of that.
I personally have never met or talked with anyone that's been sued over side pipes. The public just might be smarter on this one then we think. Most burns that are talked about happen to the owners, mentioned right here in some of the post. I guess Geico needs to offer side pipe insurance to protect the drivers.
My take on the whole matter if you like em, drive em, enjoy em, if one feels guilty or paranoid about having them. Remove them put your mind at ease, but telling me all the terrible possibilities of having them on my hotrod, please excuse me I am not listening.
Rock onI have two brains, one is lost and the other is out looking for it
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08-22-2012 12:09 AM #19
Background, I got my bottom smacked when need be and kicked, (I missed every other step) on one occasion, and, I deserved it!
Several years ago after I had just got my hot rod on the road. I was attending a hot rod show. One of my buddies wanted hear the car, so, I fired her up. Now, my car has full fenders but no hood, and has full length headers not a lakes style pipes as were pictured in post 1. Well, my oldest son at the ripe old age of, I think 3, decided those headers needed to be touched. Yes, he burned 3 of his 5 fingers on one of his hands and my name was mud. Momma wasn't happy, my day was cut pretty short. When I got home, he was in bed out cold. Cried himself to sleep. Never bothered him after his nap, hard to believe. I guess you could say it was a parental issue, but, both of us parents missed it. I have raised my kids since day one to not touch it if it's not yours. My oldest is 9 now and he is starting to get it.
I also remember as a young boy at car shoes with my parents. These ignorant unknowing parents would let/help their children up onto a fender or running board for a look see or picture. To these people, they only see cars as utilitarian machines. What's the big deal, they would ask. Truely clueless!
It's funny today, how tolerant us parents have to be. You have all these damn professionals on T.V. telling us how damaged we are from our parents getting physical with us. Poppycock!!! If I would of said 1/10 of what my kids say to me to my dad, he would of probably killed me. Kids today have it to good. At least mine do. Parental issue, somewhat. Social issue, absolutely! Don't even think about laying a hand on your children today.
One last parting shot. When I was in high school, the math teacher cracked every single person in the class for dropping their pencils on the floor at 9am. I highly doubt that could happen today.
Ready for the flaming...oh yea, damaged to.Keith
I keep telling myself, it's only money!
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08-22-2012 04:57 AM #20
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08-22-2012 05:57 AM #21
You know, I wish I had not posted the picture, or started the thread at all. I simply thought the picture, which was impromptu and not staged, brought to light the temptation for kids to touch, the danger of a kiddo getting burned, which no one wants, and #1 the need to be aware of the situation, and to be watchful any time we pull into an area with kids around at least until things get cool. No one got burned - Austin's smiling with his hand where it shouldn't be. Keith, I appreciate your story and it is obvious that you "get it" - parenting is a full time job and it takes years before the kids "get it", including understanding the "why". Like Mike said, "Rant over". You'll not hear from me again on this.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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08-22-2012 11:09 AM #22
A lot of us "got it" Roger so thanks for posting this !
meller.
" I'm drinking from my saucer, 'cause my cup is overflowed ! "
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08-23-2012 02:02 AM #23
Roger, even though the pic concerns you, it is a great picture, and it also opens up a new generation to our love of these old hot rods. We just gotta watch them little'ns with eagle eyes after the key is turned off.
This post got me thinking to about the overall safety of our machines. Most are built safe but, 1930's crash protection...oh yeah, there wasn't any. I always worry about that when we are traveling to/from the rod runs and, the kids want to take turns riding with me. People are idiots when they pull up along side these old cars at 55-70mph and take a long look see.Keith
I keep telling myself, it's only money!
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08-23-2012 08:48 PM #24
Roger,
I sure did not mean anything bad towards you with my post. Everyone raises their children (or grandchildren) different. None any better than the other, just different.Bug
"I may be paranoid but that doesn’t mean they are not watching me"
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08-24-2012 04:20 AM #25
when i can afford headers i will get them.
and you can be damn sure my 3 year old grandson will be watched as well as warned.
and yes,
he knows what dont touch HOT means.a hot rod is whatever i decide it is.
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08-25-2012 11:56 AM #26
Probably aren't going to be able to teach them that young. Just try to keep them away for another year, until they are old enough to understand what you are saying.
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08-25-2012 03:16 PM #27
Hell, I'm 71 years "young" and I still touch paint to see if it's wet.
meller.
" I'm drinking from my saucer, 'cause my cup is overflowed ! "
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08-25-2012 10:28 PM #28
Nice pic of the Grandson, and a good point made by a caring parent // grandparent.
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