Thread: Crash of flight 214

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And not a darn steering wheel or joy stick anyway to be seen in the drivers seat, heck, has the old airplane advanced so much over a short few years. It was only 50 or so years since the DC3 was the " modern way to fly " . Thank you Jerry for the link and as John enjoyed it so did I, amazing.

That was a Airbus 380, maybe on its initial flt into SFO-----------just postedit so you could maybe see what the airport area was like and those two runways---28 l # r---how close they are together and maybe get the picture of the area with Oakland and San Jose airports thrown in for mixing up the traffic---keep in mind that the radio talk did not include the traffic for the other airports-------

No steering wheel or joystick--------actually the airbus has joysticks---they are to the outside arm of the pilot--left captain, right arm co pilot--- I did see a hand on one I think on the landing---its a short handle with a arm rest---


Joystick visable at 8:29 seconds when the 200 feet minimuns call is made(might of been 8:39)Captains left hand---

Awesome stuff,Jerry..Thanks for the link.. Makes me want to jump in another plane ..Might have to try a landing at SFO myself next time...From the passengers cabin,of course..

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Good animation showing what "was" compared using an exemplar as to what "should have been"...

(Animation to be refined as more data are released)

Asiana 214 Crash Update 2 on Vimeo

Awesome footage Jerry! The Lufthansa guys obviously know their stuff and are some "Sierra Hotel" pilots

Looks easier than it is and this on a clear day with relatively little wind. Try it in the rain with 25 knots at 90 degrees to the aircraft and it get's real fun.

I too salute you Jerry! You are truly a man of "many talents!"

Glenn

That footage makes everything look pretty simple---I posted it for the visual of the bay area and to give an idea that the approaches take a little piloting especially in vfr weather/approach---with Oakland and San Jose its like trying to do something inside a pop corn popper!!!!!!!

I had a personal experience with this flight crash, as my wife was flying in that evening from St. Paul, and I was working at Marin General. On my ride into work heard about the accident on the radio, called my wife, to find out that all flights were being rerouted. She ended up flying into SFO that night arriving about 12:30, and I ended up taking a 4 hour call off, so she could get a ride home, as the shuttle service was iffy that late at night. For all the news media, I thought the airport would be crowded, but it was strangely quiet.

Jerry thanks for the insight it makes sense, and also details just how tricky it is to land there. At most hospitals, it's the same as the airlines, when a tragedy happens they are quick to blame staff, not hospital coverage or administration policy, or equipment error. Typical to throw someone under the bus and hide any other cause. This seems to be miraculous that so few were killed given the extent of damage to the plane.

Thanks for that link Jerry! It really brings in to perspective as to what they were dealing with. That is a crazy place for an airport.

Another think that bothers me is why did the aircraft catch fire where it did as watching that second video clip, apart from losing the tail section and one engine, there was no fire from the normal areas around the fuel tanks. What would of caused the body to catch fire up in the first class area ??

Originally Posted by Whiplash23T

Another think that bothers me is why did the aircraft catch fire where it did as watching that second video clip, apart from losing the tail section and one engine, there was no fire from the normal areas around the fuel tanks. What would of caused the body to catch fire up in the first class area ??

Maybe an electrical fire that caught hydraulic fluid on fire?

I was thinking what could burn up there that hot to melt the top of cabin---then I remembered about the pax oxygen system for those high altitude pressurization failures!!!!!!!!! each group of seats has an oxy generation system that is some chemical mixture that when set off generates oxygen----Its about the only thing I know of that could do that damage----there is pretty large area in the cabin that is above the ceiling for a lot of stuff and a fire could spread the length of the cabin in a flash???? any way, I came to the conclusion that it had to be an oxygen fed fire to get that hot that quick--it wasn't a jet fuel fire or the wings would have been engulfed----

Then---------on one of the news channels they showed an interior scene and the O2 masks were all hanging down so I am correct that the passenger oxygen system had something to do with it---the seat materials and cabin wall/ceiling trim are all combustble---------