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    That is a steal at $500! I watched an 8n that had junk tires and didn't run bring $1800 at an auction a month ago.

    Kurt, it almost looks like your rear tires have been sharpened for pulling? That's nice the loader and blade came with it too and even work!
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    One reason that they stayed popular with the farmers over the years is how low they set which is because of the wide front end-this allowed them to get into a lot of barn stalls with a loader to clean out the manura?-----also reason so many still have loaders on them-there was an accessory / conversion for a hydraulic pump mounted on the front driven off the crankshaft that created LIVE hydraulis-this is another reason they became so popular with the loaders-you could pick up the shit without having to take it out of gear and let the clutch out-


    And young kids could drive them standing up and be able to step on clutch and brakes ----------small kids couldn't reach pedals on the regular tractors and or be strong enough to push them down------------
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    Charlie, I am not sure what you are trying to say about the distributor, You said the earlier then you said the later are off to the side, so which one is off to the side???
    Mine is all the way to the front of the motor and off set to the passenger side a little. My bucket is controlled by a rod that drops it all at once, then you have to lower it to the ground and lock
    the handle back in to place for scooping again. The rear blade is controlled by the clutch by letting the clutch out. The front is not and will go up or down all the time, weather the clutch is in or out.
    The frame support for the front hydraulic's and bucket were made by a pipe and steel company as a add on to the tractor. It's serial number is 17322 and model number is 100.
    I have looked for another tag but am not sure where to look to see if it's a 8N or 9N. Anyway I have not found another tag yet. I hope it's not hard to remove the front hood because
    the pipes that support the bucket run along side the motor and don't leave a lot of room to work. Also the snout from the crank goes thru the frame and plugs in to a pump for the Hydraulic's to work.
    The guy I bought it from also took the generator off and replaced it with a 12 volt alternator, so it's a 12 volt system too now. Thanks Roger, the only thing I noticed that was different on his 47 was he had newer bucket and hydraulic's and his bucket can be controlled to move the angle of his bucket to any position, where mine locks in the flat position for picking up and then just drops when unlocked.
    I noticed that a lot of folks are putting different tires on the front like Charlie, are they changing the rim's or are they just putting car tires on the tractor rims???
    I already got the tractor tires and tubes so they will be going on it till they are bad, this time anyway. Took the rim's off the front end today so I have to take them down and get the new tires put on.
    Thanks Dave, Good info on your friends tractor, I always like some history on old stuff just makes it more interesting and gets the ol' wheels to turning sort of speak.
    NTFDAY you said a 48 1/2 pickup for the clutch and stuff. I am sure you mean a Ford but for what motor??? A flat head 4 cylinder motor??? Heck the car store's around here don't even carry parts for my 70 Buick Riviera. They probably won't carry that either. I knew when I bought this, it would need some work so I don't mind putting in the wrench time of a few more $$$$'s.
    The more you guy's tell your stories and talk about your friends with them, the more I am glad I got mine.
    Thanks Guy's Kurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rspears View Post

    My Dad had a Ferguson T020 which was produced after the Ferguson/Ford split but was essentially the same tractor.

    His sold for $1800 in 2002, and they are still right in that range around here today, from $1800 to $2000 depending on what comes with it. I'd really like to find a Diamond Jubilee model with the live hydraulics, which opens up a whole new world of options on accessories.
    They're still around that price over here in NZ with the ten-acre-block fraternity.
    Although far more popular and desirable is the 3 cylinder diesel Fergy 35X model. a far better 'balanced' tractor than the later Fergy 135 or the Ford 3000.
    They had far more 'oomph' than the little TEA model, and with the live drive were a very versatile machine.
    I used one (still got it,) for logging up in the bush for forty years...with the right chain connection they are capable of snigging (pulling) three times their own weight of log.

    I bought another one recently in far better condition than mine with a view to cannibalising the good unworn parts from the new one to my worn old one...but so far other things have got in the way!

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    Vara4: the trip loader on yours (where you pull the handle to trip the bucket,) is far faster to load and unload a trailer than any hydraulic crowd-action loader.
    Stick with it...believe me...I've done thousands of hours with both.

    The crowd action is only superior when it comes to loading hay or pallets, when placement on the trailer/truck is important.
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    Ya I ain't gonna change it, Johnboy.
    I may try to find or buy other attachments for it,
    But I won't change anything that works, and the bucket works fine.
    I am really happy because I can use it to pick up stuff now.
    Where before I had to go get a bunch of guys to help me pick heavy stuff up.
    And I don't know many people out here so that's been a problem, because I
    am always doing something where I have some thing heavy to pick up.
    Now I can finish building my stand for my knew giant swamp cooler and then
    pick the swamp cooler up with straps and sit it on the stand with out begging for help.
    Plus the wife and I have been wanting to landscape the front of our home and have a
    lot of gravel brought in with different colors. So spreading them will be easier the using
    a wheel barrel, like I had to do in our dog run area. That was a small area and it took me
    almost a month to do it. Oh ya paint me very happy. Plus I go in for a second knee
    replacement surgery this week. I just had my other knee done back in april.
    I fell in my drive with what I thought was my good knee last month and could not
    get it back in socket for about 2 hours, so I laid in the drive because it hurt to bad to move.
    So once my Doctor found out he said we are gonna do that one now too.
    Ya I'm happy to have a tractor and take the load off, sort of speak. HE! HE! HE!

    Kurt

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    Kurt, don't know if you've come across these pages or not but it might help with identification.

    Identifying Old Ford Tractors

    Change history '39-'64 Ford Tractors

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    I've NEVER seen a car come from the factory that couldn't be improved.....

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    Do any of you guys tractors have the optional overdrive transmission gears??????


    And a note of caution to anyone using a pto driven rotary mower ---------if the mower is rotating (flywheel effect) when push the clutch pedal in, the mower blade momentum will continue to drive the tractor forward(or backwards) this isn't only a safty thing for when your mowing up close to anything--parked vehicles in the driveway--vs being out in an open field--------but also will affect shifting gears while moving as the gears aren't syncro but are engaged----------

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    Good point on using the mowers on these. Back when I was around these many years ago, most people used an overrunning clutch to help prevent any disasters.

    They were either built into the PTO shaft or an add on like this:

    PTO Overrunning Clutch 1 3 8 Yanmar Kubota | eBay

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    there were also many injuries caused by people reaching into a mower or other PTO operated object because the machine hadn't stopped rotating---------

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    I believe it has a 10" pressure plate and clutch disc and Rock Auto and O'Reilly's carry the parts. I remember it was a bugger to get apart and wasn't that easy to get back together.
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    You have the front distributor you have an 8N there should be an 8N cast into the engine right to the rear of the starter motor.
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    OH YES Jerry's post reminded me if you get a bush hog for it be sure to get an over running clutch for the rear PTO shaft. That thing can push you a long ways. Guys here have gone into rivers and lakes and buildings trying to stop.
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    I know of one time a guy went over creek bank and did 2 or 3 rolls--------------

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    Thanks Mike Jerry & Charlie for all the great info.
    If I ever get a bush hog I know now I will need to pay special attention, and get some of the safety stuff you guys talked about.
    I know for sure now that mine is a 8N because of all the info you guys supplied me with.
    It had the dash with the Proofmeter in it the scripted rear fender, the short oil fill tube, the extendable front end, the side mounted distributor.
    The 4 speed transmission with PTO and the 3 point lift and the 172ci. flat head motor.
    It also had the smaller bolt pattern on the rims with a big bolt in the middle of the back rim for a two piece axle.
    Going first thing in the morning to get the new tires and tubes installed on my front rims then I am coming home and clearing my two acres next to my
    home then maybe I'll go over and clear our other property two blocks behind us if I have time. I need to get it done because I am going in for
    knee surgery this week and I'll be down for a couple weeks.
    Thanks again for all your help guys, I appreciate it.
    Kurt

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