Thread: Thinking about buying a HotRod in NJ

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The VIN is from a 1934 Ford that is long gone and was recreated with the aftermarket parts.

Oh, my. Where to begin . . .

When information keeps trickling in in bits and pieces, people speculate.

If the title is based on a "VIN is from a 1934 Ford that is long gone," then, there is a high probability that someone falsified an official document, which is either a felony or a misdemeanor, depending on the state. That very process resulted in Boyd Coddington getting slapped down a few years ago.

I agree with Bill NJ may accept the title at face value, but you have not given enough information. What does the title say? EVERYTHING, not just the VIN. Year, Make, Chassis Type, Body Style and any supplementary notes.

Do NOT try any of the title manipulations that DaveS53 recommended. Repeat. Falsification of official documents can have severe consequences, including confiscation of the automobile.

Do NOT depend on legal advice (including mine) you receive on this - or any other website. Go check it out with the NJ DMV, or prepare yourself for a huge shitstorm.

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All I'm doing is trying to find out what options I have when and if I purchase this vehicle. Like you said, I guess the best thing to do is go to the DMV with a photocopy and pictures of the car and ask them in person what my options and/or obstacles would be.

Originally Posted by daveS53

I did NOT recommend doing anything and I'm not giving any legal advice. I just explained how a new hot rod gets titled and tagged as a "real" '34 and not a home made car. Don't shoot the messenger.

Deny all you want. I can read, as can most people on this site. You clearly outlined an illegal process. I will agree that you didn't use the word "recommend."

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Originally Posted by daveS53

I just know how the process works.

You may know how it works where you live, but that is NOT the process where I live! I said it once earlier in this thread.

And I was glad to see the O.P. was going to do as I suggested, go to the authority and get the real information firsthand. And record the name of the person you speak to if you can, so you might be able to return to that same person later.

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Originally Posted by daveS53

More shooting the messenger. If the car he's thinking about buying is titled as a '34 with a Ford VIN number, I just explained how that happened in the state where it was titled. Too bad that you don't like what happens in other states. How do you KNOW that this doesn't happen in your state? I gave no advice on what to do, merely expected problems.

And the pot is calling the kettle colors! All I suggest / recommend is to go to the authority and get the real story instead of asking people on the internet, who do not live there, what he needs to do to get his out of state car titled/registered.

I fired no pistol, took no aim. I just learned a hard lesson firsthand, and wanted to pass on some of what I learned.

We all have had experiences, some good and some bad. And through this medium we share those. No need for angst, I wish the O.P. well in his quest for that beautiful car. NJ isn't that far from MA.. maybe we'll run into each other some day?!?

Final point, then I'm done. Dave, since you haven't seen the full title information, you have nothing but guesses on "how it happened in the state where it was titled." All you did is give a a short list about how it could have happened - speculation based on the "bits and pieces" of information we were seeing. THE answer 66vette needed to see was "Get the full title information, a description/photos of the car and check it with NJ DMV." Everything else is just salad dressing.

Post the following from the title:

Year
Make
Model

Full VIN is not required at this time..

Also, for those that don't know, unlike other states, NJ does not require a pre-title inspection of the car before they issue a NJ title.

I'll leave it at that for now and await the information requested above.

Bill S.

PS: If a title is altered in any way, shape, or form, NJ will reject that title and make you go back to the seller to have it re-issued by the state in which it came from. You cannot under any circumstances makes changes to a title...Not ever when it comes to NJ.

Year-1934
Make-Ford
Body Style-2DR Sedan
Chassis Type-AUTO

Originally Posted by 66vette

Year-1934
Make-Ford
Body Style-2DR Sedan
Chassis Type-AUTO

Newton office (closest I know of to you) will take it at face value. You can then fill out the paperwork for the specialty plates (I suggest Hot Rod) and go from there.

Bill S.

PS: To qualify for those plates you need to join a local or national Hot Rod club. I suggest a stop at the Chatterbox (RT 206) on a night they have one of their car cruises and ask around for which local clubs are around.

Bill,

Thanks for stepping in and ending the speculation. As an alternative, how about joining the National Street Rod Association?

BTW, I've lived in six states, and none of them were anywhere near that easy to license a street rod. That being said, I'm not moving to New Jersey.