Thread: Well, we've finally managed to run everyone off. How sad.

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Wow, a subject I can comment on for a change - and comment is about all I'm gonna do; no need to advertise too loudly. I've been shooting and collecting since I was ten years old, competitively in one discipline or another for over thirty years, now retired. Got a bunch of lever actions, many of them antiques, a bunch of shotguns, same scenario, some bolt rifles, some semi auto rifles, many pistolvers, and some that load themselves after the first shot; but one thing I never got around to getting for my safe is a "black rifle". Always within reach are a 1911 of one pattern or another, and my favorite old 1897 Winchester short barreled shotgun.

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Originally Posted by Rrumbler

Wow, a subject I can comment on for a change - and comment is about all I'm gonna do; no need to advertise too loudly. I've been shooting and collecting since I was ten years old, competitively in one discipline or another for over thirty years, now retired. Got a bunch of lever actions, many of them antiques, a bunch of shotguns, same scenario, some bolt rifles, some semi auto rifles, many pistolvers, and some that load themselves after the first shot; but one thing I never got around to getting for my safe is a "black rifle". Always within reach are a 1911 of one pattern or another, and my favorite old 1897 Winchester short barreled shotgun.

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Sure would like to see pics of the Shotgun! I've got my grandfathers Model 1898 Winchester 12 gauge...I remember hunting with it as a kid and a guy literally running across the field asking me if I wanted to sell it!..lol

Rumbler, just curious if one of your levers is a 1910 Stevens model 425. I have one that was my grandfathers and I think his father in laws before that.

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Originally Posted by CR55

Sure would like to see pics of the Shotgun! I've got my grandfathers Model 1898 Winchester 12 gauge...I remember hunting with it as a kid and a guy literally running across the field asking me if I wanted to sell it!..lol

Sorry, I don't think I have any pictures of the '97, don't know why, as I have most of my stuff cataloged for insurance purposes. But, I can say it is no showpiece: most of the finish is completely worn off, the wood is beat up and basically "raw", the buttstock has a repair to the wrist that could have made that part useles, it is oiled, but that is just a function of the upkeep. I bought it pretty much that way, and paid a pittance for it; I was looking for a project, or a least, a spare parts source, and this thing fit the bill nicely. But after giving it a good once over, I decide to shoot it and see how well it worked; wow! It rattles when you shake it, and running the slide is more of a clank sound that the usual click-clack of a new gun, but in battery, it locks up solid, and shoots like a finely oiled watch. I can recall taking it to matches and having people look at it and just shake their heads, or suggest that maybe I ought to get a newer gun, but once I got it in action, they would, again, just shake their heads in amazement, and a few offered me crazy, exorbitant amounts of money if I'd sell it to them; but, no, we have a "thing" between us.



Jack, no Stevens 425. Got one Stevens lever action 22 Cal. single shot "Boys Rifle" that all of my kids and grands have learned to shoot with. From what I can find by poking at the internet, a 425 is quite similar to a Marlin 336. All of my antique lever guns are Winchesters of various model numbers, mostly '94 and '92.

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gun laws do not work, never have. the cities with the most strict gun laws lead in gun violence . guns dont kill people , low life thugs do .

Originally Posted by shine

gun laws do not work, never have. the cities with the most strict gun laws lead in gun violence . guns dont kill people , low life thugs do .

Yep, exactly. But you'll never convince the other side this. They think the guns are the evil wrong do-er when it is the end user. Take all the guns away and see how crime/death rates sky rocket. Chicago is a prime example. A state with some of the most strict gun laws in the nation and it isn't helping. Why? Because dirt bags are going to be dirt bags.

Originally Posted by shine

gun laws do not work, never have. the cities with the most strict gun laws lead in gun violence . guns dont kill people , low life thugs do .

This statement is so true, but it seems as though our "Elected" officials don't seem to understand this fact! Back home, I thought our city was tops in shootings until I moved to Illinois and saw what Chicago has become! Taking guns from citizens will absolutely NOT stop criminals from acquiring them!

make congress and the senate hold meetings in Chicago without security.

Originally Posted by shine

make congress and the senate hold meetings in Chicago without security.

This same logic would result in a quick solution to just about every social issue in the country. Crime, immigration, gun control and health care come to mind. Our elected reps live in ivory towers separated way too far from the mess that they and their masters have created. If they had to live in the same conditions as normal people, all but the stupidest would abandon their social experiments and go to something that works.

Welllllll----with the shootings this past week end, Chicago has at least 407 homicides this year-------there gun laws are showing that they are track for another record year

Originally Posted by jerry clayton

Welllllll----with the shootings this past week end, Chicago has at least 407 homicides this year-------there gun laws are showing that they are track for another record year

I do not understand why the good people of Illinois put up with that BS.

Wellllllllll---------Chicago is to Illinois about the same as California is to the USA

We had friends in from Washington State over past weekend and made some trips into Chicago to museums, aquariums, Sears tower------and they commented about how many and size of huge cemetaries------I told them that it was where dead people rested because they got so tired after voting so many times and places during the elections

read rules for radicals . this was hillarys hero and mentor . they got the dependence thing going but just cant get us disarmed . that is what socialism is all about . working real well in Venezuela .

Look at Switzerland, lowest crime rate in the world.

those folks over there have screwed themselves . if ever there was a need for caring a gun it is in Europe . gonna happen here if we dont shut the gate .