Thread: 2017 Fall Harvest
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11-07-2017 08:20 PM #16
Thanks a lot for the pics and info, Looks like a lot of fun running the stuff instead of fixing it. It brings me back to a kid in the fall with our neighbors new 7720 JD combining and me hauling loads back to the yard with our 4020 and D 17 Allis running the auger. I can still feel the cold air and smell the fresh corn going into the bin and the hear the drier running. Your kids are getting a blessing being a part of that. On another note, it's kinda neat seeing a TR combine running in the field.There used to be lots of older ones around here but they all have gotten replaced with Red and Green ones.Seth
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11-08-2017 02:18 PM #17
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I got involved with fixing a few of their quad tracs in the field. Hydraulic lines and electrical issues. Big fun. There are a lot of TR machines out here. The general rumor I hear from most of the farmers with red and TR ones, seems to be that the newer green machines tear up the corn pretty bad.Ryan
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11-08-2017 08:51 PM #18
I understand 'green' and 'JD' (John Deere,) but red and TR?
And thanks for taking the time and effort to post this up; I've enjoyed reading it. An education on large-scale cropping in the US.
As far as I know we've got nothing on this scale in NZ. If we have I'm unaware of it.johnboy
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11-08-2017 11:05 PM #19
i'm with johnboy - red, TR???
great pictures . thanks.mark
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11-09-2017 05:31 PM #20
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Red= International Harvester or Case/IH
TR he is referring to New Holland Twin Rotor combines. These are yellow and black.
We also have Lexon brand which are I believe who actually built the Caterpillar brand combines. (These are yellow too) There are still plenty of guys using old Gleaners, Massey Fergusons, and I even saw an Oliver in a field a few weeks ago. That thing is old.Ryan
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1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
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11-09-2017 07:21 PM #21
The rotor is the way the crop is separated from the stalk. It spins against grates for a simple explanation and drops the seed in the bottom and spits the stalk out the back. The Case IH and JD ones use one large rotor and the New Holland uses two smaller ones which arguably is more efficient.Seth
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11-09-2017 07:24 PM #22
Here's a JD showing a bit more detail.Seth
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11-09-2017 09:12 PM #23
Thanks for that.
It explains everything.
Appreciated.johnboy
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11-10-2017 06:36 AM #24
I'll add my .02 to this-I worked for I-H back when the Axial Flow Combine was developed (1440, 1460, 1480), and an I-H Engineer told me that the same guy designed both the Axial Flow and the Twin Rotor (TR)-the difference was he worked for each Company when he did it (traitor? ), and New Holland had to go TR because of the I-H patents-
Now that I am Deere, we are told (Deere propaganda?) that the Case I-H and TR's share the same platform, they just change the outside cladding and guts (I believe they are both produced in Grand Island NE and possibly one other plant?)-Deere, being the follower that they are sometimes, must have had to admit defeat and join the crowd with their design of the Axial Flow as it came much later (more than 10 Years after the I-H)-call me old, but while I like the hydraulic drive of the new machines, I think the simplicity of design was one of I-H's strengths (even though you had to service the Rotor Drive Belts)-Last edited by 35WINDOW; 11-10-2017 at 06:42 AM.
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11-13-2017 09:46 PM #25
I've also heard that about the same guy designing both, He must have been pretty smart.They have been using the same design for both for around 40 yrs, with some tweeks here and there. Your right on the differences of the NH and CIH, just threshing part is different . I would love to visit the plant as it's not terrible far from me. New Holland seems to consistantly hold world records with their combines. Soybean harvesting world record: 16,157 bushels in 8 hours with CR8.90Last edited by 53 Chevy5; 11-13-2017 at 09:51 PM.
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11-14-2017 05:00 PM #26
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I'd have to ask Josh what the most bushels in a day they have ran is. I'd bet it's a lot. I'd bet it's over 30-40k bushels in a 12-14hr day. It's bad when 4 semis hauling 1k bushels each can't keep up.
Some more pics. My oldest son Clint in the combine in the second pic.Ryan
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11-14-2017 05:53 PM #27
Pretty country, thanks for the pics
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11-14-2017 06:40 PM #28
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Last weekend I got a treat for a change. Instead of holding a wheel and shifting all day, I got to do some chiseling! I used one of the 535 quad tracs, and a Krause dominator chisel. It's 21ft wide and has several depths for the chisels. It has rollers on the back which make it sort tough to run because you have to remember to pick up the rear section in wash out areas and during turning around. It is not a big deal once the green wears off the user.
Sorry for the blurry pic, but those were 3 deer that need shot and put in the freezer.
It's been a really long time since I've ran any tractor with a large disc or anything. These guys use auto steer and gps to plant, spray, and do tillage work. I thought this was cheating but it is really cool. All you have to do is turn it around, get it within the range, hit the auto steer button and go. Once you're straight you can drop the chisel, and start up shifting. Then you just watch for rocks and be ready to down shift. If the tractor gets lugged down below 1450rpm, you will likely meet the windshield because the trans just goes to neutral. It's not a real fun deal. HahaRyan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
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11-14-2017 06:47 PM #29
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This field was 135 acres. The fuel tank they use to fill equipment was low so I only got 3/4 of a tank. I ran the tractor until the low fuel light came on. Then I ran about a half hour longer and called it quits before I was walking. I did 112 acres in about 9.5hrs. Back and forth, back and forth.Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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11-14-2017 09:23 PM #30
I have always heard that those Quad Tracks ride like a Cadillac in the field, I'm kinda jealous. I've rebuilt the transmissions on a few of them but never got to use one in the field. I've also heard that the auto steer really takes the wear and tear out of the driver after being in it all day. Sounds silly cause the only difference is you turning a wheel but I can see where its true. Looks like you have LED lights on it. Oh yea, did you get the stupid deer? Turns out my mom hit one today with her run around car, guess I'm not done with body workSeth
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