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    You need at least a 60 gallon. I was going to buy me a new compressor but don't have the money so am taking my car to a friends house and doing all the body work there in his grandfathers shop once we move everything to one side and clean ALL the dust out and get the clear wrapping stuff up and make my PVC frame for a little temporary paint booth. Look to see what CFM your gun needs and then see if your compressor can handle it. I just recently learned what kind of compressor you need for what from Spraytech and a few others.
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    my uncle has the engine and tranny and yes he still has.
    so i would need to buy a new compresor?????
    and if so what one should i go with or could i just buy a old one with a big tank on it cause i know where a old one is but i dont know what cfm it is and stuff. is there any way to check this?????
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    Ya don't really need a 60 gallon, it is nice to have if ya have the funding. Our old homade stationary compressor, ( refigerant compressor pump, 35 gallon hot water heater tank ) has served 16 years and we haven't compleatly retired it yet, it runs all our power tools but, it dosn't keep up with some of them but, the things like die grinder and air hammer, does, only the 750 ft lb impact wrench dosent compleatly keep up, my dads siphon feed paint gun kept up, I'm not shure about my new guns ( High quality siphon feed and a ATG touch up and jamb gun ) but they should, I'm using our new 2 horse 7 gallon compressor with a special rig so I will connect our 7 gallon supply tank that we replumed so it has a preassure regulator and a regular hose, not just a tire pump hose. It should sustain fairly well for those paint guns.
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    Originally posted by TRUCKGUY
    my uncle has the engine and tranny and yes he still has.
    so i would need to buy a new compresor?????
    and if so what one should i go with or could i just buy a old one with a big tank on it cause i know where a old one is but i dont know what cfm it is and stuff. is there any way to check this?????
    Your compressor is well big enough for a hobbiest, yes if you had a lot money, a 60 gallon 7 horse sounds nice but, it's gonna cost ya around 400 bucks ( new ), possibly more. You won't run out of air when painting or probably even running a DA sander, die grinder or anything, it's not like your gonna have 2 services runing ( 2 peopele using air tools at the same time from 1 compressor, like you see in shops with plumbed pvc air pipes running throuout a shop ).
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    Maybe the serial numbers, just see how many HP it is. Look for something like a 5HP 80 gallon tank which CFM disp. is around 23 and CFM 100 psi 19-20. I am getting this from www.toolsusa.com
    Those things are like 1300 bucks and that's those kind that require oil and are quite. If you can find a 60 or 80 gallon one and it's old and it does the job then it will be good. I wish I had the money for a big compressor and a nice spray gun and all the other stuff needed to paint a car. I am going to be buying my own Devilbiss Fineline gun and DA sander but am going to be using a friends compressor. If you can find someone with a big compressor and are pretty good friends with them then ask them if you can barrow it unless you are wanting to buy your own and have it. Even if you spent about 1300 on a nice 80 gallon, to me that's worth it.
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    well my uncle tom has some compresors but they arent any bigger than mine and he said that he painted cars with it before??? i dont have a bunch money to spend on it but i want a nice paint job. what i am wanting to know is if mine will do the job or if there is one that dont cost thousands that i could get and put a nice good paint job on with it????
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    Originally posted by FMXhellraiser
    Maybe the serial numbers, just see how many HP it is. Look for something like a 5HP 80 gallon tank which CFM disp. is around 23 and CFM 100 psi 19-20. I am getting this from www.toolsusa.com
    Those things are like 1300 bucks and that's those kind that require oil and are quite. If you can find a 60 or 80 gallon one and it's old and it does the job then it will be good. I wish I had the money for a big compressor and a nice spray gun and all the other stuff needed to paint a car. I am going to be buying my own Devilbiss Fineline gun and DA sander but am going to be using a friends compressor. If you can find someone with a big compressor and are pretty good friends with them then ask them if you can barrow it unless you are wanting to buy your own and have it. Even if you spent about 1300 on a nice 80 gallon, to me that's worth it.
    The compressor he has IS adaquate for painting. 5.1 CFM@ 90 , 25 gallon will hold good he's only gona run 35-40 PSI, he's only g PSI is adaquate for most paint guns, some HVLPs but even a good siphon feed or regular gravity feed, is adaquate, HVLP is merely more efficent, some as high as 95% efficent compared to a regular guns 50% avg efficency. That 1300 dollar compressor is for shops running more than 1 air tool at once or high CFM consumption air tools like air shears ( avg 16 cfm ) not for a hobbiest just wanting to lay some paint on his truck.
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    Originally posted by TRUCKGUY
    well my uncle tom has some compresors but they arent any bigger than mine and he said that he painted cars with it before??? i dont have a bunch money to spend on it but i want a nice paint job. what i am wanting to know is if mine will do the job or if there is one that dont cost thousands that i could get and put a nice good paint job on with it????
    Yours is more than adaquate for painting.
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    Matt, I know that 1300 dollar one isn't just for a hobbiest, I was telling him that if he had the money and wanted something nice and all then that would be something in his range. But if he won't be using it all the time running all these different air tools, etc then no use in having it. But you have to agree, it would be nice to have something like that. But yeah sounds like the one you have is good enough then. Best thing I can tell you is practice laying down some paint on something you don't really care about and see how it is throwing down and if it's not good enough then get a new one.
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    yeah i am going to practice some before i do my truck. who knows i mite even be able to get my supposed to be dad to help me with it he has all the stuff. but i dout it. so i am planing on building me a garage and all. but what would be a good paint GUN i would probly need one to match my compressor right. where would i find one and what one would i need???

    well its time for bed see you guys later
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    Originally posted by FMXhellraiser
    Matt, I know that 1300 dollar one isn't just for a hobbiest, I was telling him that if he had the money and wanted something nice and all then that would be something in his range. But if he won't be using it all the time running all these different air tools, etc then no use in having it. But you have to agree, it would be nice to have something like that. But yeah sounds like the one you have is good enough then. Best thing I can tell you is practice laying down some paint on something you don't really care about and see how it is throwing down and if it's not good enough then get a new one.
    It would be great to have a 1300 dollar 80 gal compressor but, in now way is it practicle for anyone who is just a hobbiest, it's none the less overkill, the most you really need is a 35- 60 ( maby ) gallon for a hobbiest. The comp he has is adaquate for painting and most anything else and the fact is, it's there, he can use it. That 1300 80 gal will service more than 1 air tool, it would supply an air system, so a few people could gain service of the compressor anywhere theres a air hose in a shop. My uncle paints cars nice and he used a 10 gallon homade compressor when he painted his old van and it turned out nice. He also says " The gun cannnot be any better than the painter using it ". I'm not trying to pick a fight with anyone
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    Originally posted by TRUCKGUY
    yeah i am going to practice some before i do my truck. who knows i mite even be able to get my supposed to be dad to help me with it he has all the stuff. but i dout it. so i am planing on building me a garage and all. but what would be a good paint GUN i would probly need one to match my compressor right. where would i find one and what one would i need???

    well its time for bed see you guys later
    To practice, go to walmart, get 1 qt of rustolum enamel tractor paint and some paint thinner ( not laquer thinner ), mix it 50 50 in your gun and practice on any metal. For a gun, don't get a gun that has a cfm rating over 5.1 @ 90 PSI, get an HVLP gravity fed if you can find 1 with those ratings but, otherwise, get a high quality siphon feed. The gun is only as good as the painter.
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    www.spraygundepot.com They have heaps of auto body products, painting products, etc.
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    Originally posted by Streets
    gee, Ya mean I don't really need 4 air compressors in my small shop?? 3-80 gals and 1-60... Danggit all!!
    what is your shop, 2400 sq ft? You probably have each 1 of them put to use with all those gadgets you have like an 8' Blast cabinet.
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    Your shop is 5.6 times bigger than my house, need I say more.
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