Thread: lightest muscle car?
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01-23-2005 10:14 AM #16
MGB V8.THEY USED A 221 ALUMNIMUM BLOCK
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01-23-2005 01:15 PM #17
What did the 68-70 AMXs tip the scales at? they couldnt have been to heavy. probably under 3000 easyRight engine, Wrong Wheels
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01-23-2005 04:23 PM #18
Lightest/Fastest Muscle Car
The "LO23" code 68 Dodge Dart hemi was only offered to drag racers so as to see they went straight into competition. These were light and bad BUT probably don't qualify. The other however that comes to mind was the Dart GSS which was offered by Norm's Spalding Dodge in Chicago. It had a 440 in an small A body.
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01-23-2005 06:45 PM #19
Production car available in the showroom would certainly leave out the Thunderbolts. I would have to wonder what the '63 Nova SS with the 283's weighed??? Friend of mine has one he's resto-rodding, seems like a fairly light car. Anybody remember what the little Dart GS or (GT?) with the 273 CI motor weighed in at?? If ya wanna count one off creations, then there's a guy in Sioux falls with a Street Legal (well, it's licensed and has lights) Sprint car, can't be over 1700 lbs. Moly Chassis, aluminum block and heads!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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01-23-2005 06:56 PM #20
Originally posted by Dave Severson
Production car available in the showroom would certainly leave out the Thunderbolts. I would have to wonder what the '63 Nova SS with the 283's weighed??? Friend of mine has one he's resto-rodding, seems like a fairly light car. Anybody remember what the little Dart GS or (GT?) with the 273 CI motor weighed in at?? If ya wanna count one off creations, then there's a guy in Sioux falls with a Street Legal (well, it's licensed and has lights) Sprint car, can't be over 1700 lbs. Moly Chassis, aluminum block and heads!!!!You don't know what you've got til it's gone
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01-23-2005 06:57 PM #21
Hmmmm. Interesting the '67's looked to be so much bigger than the '63's and '64's. Not being a chebbie guy, I can't say that I have ever spent much time around either model. I was just going by what "looked" to be lighter, not basing anything on fact or personal knowledge.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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01-23-2005 07:43 PM #22
Charlie, a few decades back a friend of mine had one of these little darts, think it was a '64 (?). Had a bit of cam, fenderwell headers, 600 Holley, and a 4 speed. The thing ran really strong. Funny how the mind works, hadn't thought about Paul's little dart for ages, then for whatever reason this thread brought it back. Can't remember what I had for lunch but I remember a car a guy I haven't seen for 30 years had in 1968 !!!!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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01-23-2005 08:17 PM #23
Im really surprised & frankly glad that nobody has started argueing about what is & what is not a musclecar.75 GMC C-15 factory 454, automatic, lowered
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01-23-2005 08:19 PM #24
Maybe they need a Hot Rod Debate Forum.It ain't broke if you can fix it.
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01-23-2005 08:22 PM #25
................or maybe a hotrod hothead forum???? Life is far too important to be taken seriously!!!!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
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01-23-2005 08:26 PM #26
Dave agreed, but you know what Im talking about, the ones who take stuff to literal..."camaros arent Muscle cars , there Pony cars" or " Vettes asre Sports cars, not muscle cars".
I know a guy with a 67 Chevelle with a 427...it was originally a 283...so he says its a street machine, but not a muscle car, cause it wasnt an original big block car75 GMC C-15 factory 454, automatic, lowered
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01-23-2005 08:28 PM #27
Thanks for the AMX info tech. So does anyone actually have an answer?Right engine, Wrong Wheels
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01-23-2005 09:17 PM #28
Originally posted by Dave Severson
Hmmmm. Interesting the '67's looked to be so much bigger than the '63's and '64's. Not being a chebbie guy, I can't say that I have ever spent much time around either model. I was just going by what "looked" to be lighter, not basing anything on fact or personal knowledge.
The 62-65 Nova body style might have been a little lighter than the 66-67s. But Chevy did not put a V-8 in them until 64 I think and then it was a 283. And while it wasn't exactly a slouch with that motor I would not really call it a muscle car. The early ones are real easy to drop a small block into, all you needed was the 64-65 mounts. In 66 they put the 350hp 327 in them with a 4 speed and a 12 bolt rear end. Now that was a Muscle Car, NHRA A/Stock. One of Bill Jenkins early Grumpy's Toys was one a dem. I had a '63 that I put a 400 Small block in and it was a great budget racer. It was right at 3000 with me in it, and it had frame connectors and a 6 pt roll bar.
PatOf course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!
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01-23-2005 09:20 PM #29
Looks like so far it's the 66 chebbie deuce and 2921 lbs, drg.
Stepside, I know what ya mean. I get so fed up with catagorizing and labeling on cars !!! Last summer at a car show, some clown took a swing at the guy doing checkin cuz he wanted to put his camino in with the "muscle cars" and not have to show it as a "truck". It was resolved when they told the idiot they didn't want his camino in the show at all and he should leave !!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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01-23-2005 10:08 PM #30
Ford Mustang II. 2,669 lbs. curb weight in 1978, with the 302.
(So much for not arguing about what is and isn't a muscle car.)Dual Quad Tunnel Rammed "Are you INSANE?" 5.0L H.O. '78 Mustang II
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