Thread: Project $ 3 K Is Underway
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05-22-2007 12:10 AM #1561
Originally Posted by BradCPLANET EARTH, INSANE ASYLUM FOR THE UNIVERSE.
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05-22-2007 12:13 AM #1562
I swear, if I can get Bob's address, I'm sending him a letter bomb.
Don
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05-22-2007 12:13 AM #1563
Don, maybe it's just the lighting, but it looks Root Beer to me, not orange.PLANET EARTH, INSANE ASYLUM FOR THE UNIVERSE.
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05-22-2007 12:23 AM #1564
I had the same thoughts. In the sunshine the flake comes out, and it gets lighter. I'm really glad I decided not to do the body and frame in it. This color is very hard to get even coloring on. It is so translucent that it wants to be dark in some places and lighter in others.
What ever it is tomorrow when I get to the shop, that is what I am going with. I have had my fill of painting.
Don
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05-22-2007 07:13 AM #1565
Ive talked to painters that say some colors are a bear to get to match. You can mix small batches out of the same can on different days and get 2 different colors.
May not be anything you did wrong, just one of those colors.
Still lookin' good by the way. Don't know when I'll get anything posted again, been working on my dad's motorcycle for the last few days.
Mike
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05-22-2007 07:52 AM #1566
Thanks Mike. I'm really not sure what happened either. I don't know if I didn't stir it enough or if I sprayed on more coats, etc. It is for sure a little darker, but I think I sort of like the contrast (somewhat). I know when I worked at the body shop, even our experienced painters with all the high tech mixing equipment would get mismatches frequently. They would roll a car into the sunshine, and end up rolling it back for a repaint.
This particular color is like syrup or honey, and even if you stay in one spot a little longer than the others, it comes out different. The metallic factor doesn't help either. But it is as good as I am going to make it, I'm done repainting stuff.
Have fun working on the bike.
Don
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05-22-2007 06:21 PM #1567
Don---It looks very good. I ran into the same problem when I painted the roadster pickup all in seperate peices. Everything looked great setting around my garage in peices. Then when I bolted it all together, I had some serious colour mismatches. Ended up scuffing everything with a scotch-brite pad and respraying the whole car while it was bolted together.--Only another zillion dollars worth of tri-stage paint. Talk about your "paintjob nightmares"---Old guy hot rodder
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05-22-2007 06:46 PM #1568
Color shade can change with air pressure, distance to the piece your painting, and luck. Just one of those things to drive you crazy ( thats what the voice in my head is telling me)
Brad
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05-22-2007 06:59 PM #1569
Don i think you did the right choice on leaving frame dark. That orange stands out just right i would like to see it up close , I'm sure pics are not doing it justice .
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05-22-2007 07:25 PM #1570
If it is anything like the pics, it's going to be a head turner for sure. What color is the upholstrey going to be?"Sunshine, a street rod and a winding beautiful Ozarks road is truely Bliss!"
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05-22-2007 07:44 PM #1571
Brick alot of people will be crooning the necks when Don drives by. What started as a budget build is headed for show stopper quality .
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05-22-2007 10:09 PM #1572
I think you need to hit those jasckstands again!
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05-22-2007 10:48 PM #1573
Brian: We were just saying last night that yellow must be another tough color to get good, even coverage on. It is so non-hiding. Bet you really hated the work aspect more than the financial one, but you are right about money going up in smoke.
Brad: You could be right, the weather here has been different every night when I have been spraying. One night the rain has just ended, the next night it is dry. I even thought that maybe the mixed up batch settled as I was using it up, and all the pigment went to the bottom, and I shot that on as the last coat or two.
Bobby: Yeah, I think I am going to like the end result. Right now, I just want the painting to end so I can start on the final hookups and stuff. It really is only what I would call driver quality, not show quality by any means, but it should be at least bright. I also want to hear the engine fire for that first time. (how do I post sound on here? )
Brick: I was thinking about an all black interior, but last night Dan threw out the suggestion that an old time leather, sort of like oxblood, would go well with it. You know, like an old baseball glove, old roadster from the '40's kind of stuff. I have a guy who opened an upholstery shop right at the end of my row, so I am going to get some ideas from him when the time comes. I may be sitting on indian blankets if the price is too high. Might have to go back to work to afford seats.
Tom: Should I paint the floor jacks the same color as the jackstands, or a different color so that I can tell one from the other. I need all the help I can get, you know.
Thanks guys for the nice words and help.
Don
Oh, I got the rear radius rods and front end remounted today, but forgot my camera. I'll post some pictures tomorrow. The color is much closer now that we resprayed it last night, close enough for me. Tomorrow I am going to do the brake shoes and all, and slip the drums back on. Then once I paint the wheels and remount the tires I will have a roller.Last edited by Itoldyouso; 05-22-2007 at 10:53 PM.
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05-22-2007 11:09 PM #1574
Don,
I have been reading this as you have been going along, and everyones help. I'm sure one or more of these guys have hit the nail on the head, but stuff like this really bugs me. I always want to really know why something like this happens. So I started going threw all the scenarios I could think of. Again I'm no painter, I wish I had that talent but I don't.
A long time ago I played around with candy colors on a car I was building, and found that whether used gold As silver the color really changed by how much base color I used. Of course that makes sense with translucent colors. So thinking about what happened to you, if I understood you you color is some what translucent, so I wonder if the actual color of the individual parts (castings or steel tubing) is causing the finished color to change on you? I know you primered everything but I wonder if it could bleed threw? So you think this is even possible?
KenLast edited by Ken Thurm; 05-22-2007 at 11:14 PM.
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05-22-2007 11:39 PM #1575
Very strange you should mention that Ken. That sort of was one scenario I considered too. The parts that are darker are the two springs and the rear axle. Everything else came out slightly more golden, as opposed to a slightly reddish cast. Same primer, pretty much same amount of coats, air presure, etc. The springs are actually slightly darker than the rear axle even, and I wondered if the flatness of the leaves contributed, but Dan pointed out that some brackets on the rear axle are just as flat. Even parts that were sprayed the same night with the same pot are slightly different.
I even wondered if spring steel colored differently. Number of coats and heaviness of coats had zero effect last night. We really packed on some coats, trying to get it to darken, and it still was goldish.
I already have my story in place for when someone says to me at a show or cruise "why are some parts darker?" I'm going to say I planned it that way for some contrast.
Or, I could park it outside in Floridas hot sun for a week, and everything will be faded.
Don
Ok gang. It's been awhile. With everything that was going on taking care of my mom's affairs and making a few needed mods to the Healey, it was June before anything really got rolling on this...
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