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Winter has been pretty intense here, too......we had several days in the 50's and were freezing our butts off!!! LOL!

Talk soon.
Randy

About the weather here............... My back yard on Wednesday morning trying out a new lens for my camera

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Hey Dave,

I finally got started fitting my AC evaporator into my car. I saved a little time and bought their mounting bracket and tacked it to the firewall. As you'll see from the pics, I didn't put the evaporator all the way up behind the dash. I'm not willing to eliminate my glove box for that. I'm going to attach a 4 or 5 inch skirt/panel to the bottom of the dash which will cover most of the evaporator. I also cut holes for the inline bulkhead. I still need to tack a bracket under there to hole my fuse box then I'll be ready to prep & shoot the firewall with epoxy primer and proceed with that part of the body work.
It's a long slow road isn't it? LOL

Did you notice we're over 6000 viewers now? That's incredible! If you viewers have anything to add, please do!

Later,
Randy

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Randy,
Lookin' good
I almost believe you have less behind the dash room then I have with my '31 although I don't have a glove box but do have reinforcing steel work that I've added (which reminds me that I do have to get a bunch of digital pictures of that area).

If you run into a water hose clearance problem, I had to use two 5/8" SB Ford bypass hose to hook up my heater. They were cheap - but the box of extra A/C fittings I have got expensive.

I made some small mods to my exhaust hanger system, set up the gas tank for installation and modified my battery box for installation in the last day or so - need to take photos of that today -and try out my new Nikon 24-120mm lens some more.

Time? I tried to keep track of that when I started along with the expenses. Gave both up as a "time waster" tho I do have most of my receipts.

It amazes me that not too many have joined in here. I do owe some rear brake set up photos to one guy that asked - it wont be long as I have to bracket the e-brake cable away from the wheels which have to be removed for that little project.

Now - if it would only warm up a bit more..........

Later

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Randy,
Lookin' good
I almost believe you have less behind the dash room then I have with my '31 although I don't have a glove box but do have reinforcing steel work that I've added (which reminds me that I do have to get a bunch of digital pictures of that area).

If you run into a water hose clearance problem, I had to use two 5/8" SB Ford bypass hose to hook up my heater. They were cheap - but the box of extra A/C fittings I have got expensive.

Thanks Dave. I have 10+ inches between the upper firewall and the dash. The evaporator is 8 3/4" deep so there would be enough room to have placed it up higher behind the dash if I didn't want the glove box. I don't think I'll have a clearance problem with the heater/AC hoses. All the fittings came in the kit with my unit.
Here's a couple of examples of what I have in mind for the lower dash panel:

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Thanks Dave. I have 10+ inches between the upper firewall and the dash. ..........

Here's a couple of examples of what I have in mind for the lower dash panel:

Randy,
I knew it!!!! A '31 without the OEM gas tank DOES have more behind the dash room. But that is probably the only place where an 'A' has more room then a '37 . The upper part, above the engine recess is about 17", and at the recess, ~12". I was able to hide about 90% of my A/C. These are pictures that I took only for hose ID so are not much. There are probably better versions but on film somewhere. You can see the 2 Ford bypass connectors for the heat. A bit sloppy, but necessary. The heater hose will bend to a tighter radius then the similar size #10 A/C hose - that hose is mean and the reason for my having so many spare fittings. After I put it together with the aluminum fittings found a local source for steel pieces (the local Parker-Hannifin store). The dryer is mounted on the frame, just behind the radiator. I had a very nice polished aluminum version but the inlet/outlets were incorrect for my application and they can't be reversed.

I do like the red car dash extender - tho the black may be as nice. The detail is lost. Not sure if the latest car toy is necessary in a street rod, that GPS. But, to each his own - he who dies with the most toys wins!!

Later

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IC2 / Irelands Child, thanks for remembering the picture requests of the rear brakes. I am still curious as to what they look like but the priority is no longer that high. After doing some more research I chose to go with the new Wilwood rear axle setup. The car already had Wilwood all around and I wanted to stay with the disc brakes so I think it was a good choice. I'd still like to see what your arrangment look like and will still be patient (trying) to view them. Thanks!

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IC2 / Irelands Child, thanks for remembering the picture requests of the rear brakes. I am still curious as to what they look like but the priority is no longer that high. After doing some more research I chose to go with the new Wilwood rear axle setup. The car already had Wilwood all around and I wanted to stay with the disc brakes so I think it was a good choice. I'd still like to see what your arrangment look like and will still be patient (trying) to view them. Thanks!

I have to pull the wheels and rotor hats off, probably today, as one axle retainer bolt per side holding the ebrake bracket is too short and needs to be replaced. So maybe........

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I have to pull the wheels and rotor hats off, probably today, as one axle retainer bolt per side holding the ebrake bracket is too short and needs to be replaced. So maybe........

Will these help? There are a few more but repetitive. Sorry it took so long but to many other things happening.

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Those are perfect! Thanks so much for taking them for me! I just recieved my order with the cables and handle etc., so I should be able to get it together by the weekend. I also noticed you have a rear sway bar. Do you think it's helpful? Do you also have a front sway bar? Again, thank you for the pictures.

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Those are perfect! Thanks so much for taking them for me! I just recieved my order with the cables and handle etc., so I should be able to get it together by the weekend. I also noticed you have a rear sway bar. Do you think it's helpful? Do you also have a front sway bar? Again, thank you for the pictures.

If you have clearance problems, you may be able to swap the assemblies from side to side. As a suggestion, don't be in a hurry to cut the cables to final length. Also, it might not be a simple bolt-up. It took me a fair number of hours, a couple of homemade pieces and some clamps to fit it all up to my satisfaction. That doesn't count the 2-3 hours yesterday to replace a short axle retainer bolt and "adjust" the location of the e-brake cable to get it away from rubbing the tires

I have both front and rear sway bars. With an IFS you really need one for proper turn control. As far as the rear, with the coil over suspension, the sway bar is not entirely necessary, but as always, good to have as it tends to aid the shocks in controlling roll in turns.

Good luck - and give us some in-process pictures

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I did have an issue with the brake handle mount hitting the frame, a few minutes on the lathe cutting back the mount spacers too care of that.

I ran the cable housings and marked them for length, when I did cut them I added 2-3" so they would be a bit longer to aid in travel. It is NOT a simple bolt in! I've put it together about 5 times now. I have to go finish it today I hope! My big hang up now is the "clips" that connect the cables to brake linkage. The clips don't allow the cables and the linkage to share the same space!!! I'm turning up an adapter that I'll weld to the clip so the cable end is away from the linkage. Then I can adjust it all and test!

My car has a Kugal IFS and it does have a front sway bar. I have seen some cars with a rear unit but I've never asked if they liked it.

Thanks again for the info and help, I'll see what I can do about pics..

Mike

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I did have an issue with the brake handle mount hitting the frame, a few minutes on the lathe cutting back the mount spacers too care of that.

I ran the cable housings and marked them for length, when I did cut them I added 2-3" so they would be a bit longer to aid in travel. It is NOT a simple bolt in! I've put it together about 5 times now. I have to go finish it today I hope! My big hang up now is the "clips" that connect the cables to brake linkage. The clips don't allow the cables and the linkage to share the same space!!! I'm turning up an adapter that I'll weld to the clip so the cable end is away from the linkage. Then I can adjust it all and test!

My car has a Kugal IFS and it does have a front sway bar. I have seen some cars with a rear unit but I've never asked if they liked it.

Thanks again for the info and help, I'll see what I can do about pics..

Mike

Mike,
It sounds like you are well on the way. It also sounds like you MAY not be overjoyed with the less then adequate Lokar instructions either - they do leave a lot to be desired.

I probably should have taken some photos of my cable arrangement for you but unless you have either a TCI or Brookville frame, might not have been worthwhile for your assembly.

Rear stabilzer/sway bars will help on curvy roads by keeping the inner wheel planted on the pavement - and I KNOW that MA doesn't have any slinky roads yeah, right!!!

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IC2/ Dave,
So they call them instructions? HA! It's funny how they completely ignore the connection at the back! I guess that's so they can forget how bad their parts are made! It's alright tho', some yankee ingenuity got it right!

Thanks for the offer of more pic's, I'd love to see more of your car. You do nice work! The fella from California who I think started this thread, he's done some real nice work also! I guess I should apologize for hijacking his thread!

Not as many "SLINKY" roads as I like! And too many people!
Thanks Again!
Mike

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IC2/ Dave,
So they call them instructions? HA! It's funny how they completely ignore the connection at the back! I guess that's so they can forget how bad their parts are made! It's alright tho', some yankee ingenuity got it right!

I think that I have "discussed" this with Lokar about every time I see them at a show. Their stuff is nice tho it does take a bit of guesswork to install

Thanks for the offer of more pic's, I'd love to see more of your car. You do nice work! The fella from California who I think started this thread, he's done some real nice work also! I guess I should apologize for hijacking his thread!

One of these days I'll update the photo section here with some new pictures - what is in there now is 2 or more years old. I have so many and they are really not well organized but since I just got a new version of Photoshop Elements with an organizer, hope to fix that problem soon. Randy started this thread over a year ago and occasionally a few folks drop in - but for the most part it has almost been a Randy/Dave specific, but over 6000 folks have viewed it
Not as many "SLINKY" roads as I like! And too many people!

Yeah, you're in the 'flatland' and overpopulated area of MA - ya gotta move West, like Stockbridge, Williamstown or North Adams for slinky roads and fewer people

Thanks Again!
Mike

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