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[Irelands child]

Randy,
Got my replacement - replacement hood sides today. A bit of surface rust but this time are correct 'as ordered'. Now I've got to go prime them if not too hot in my garage - from snow to 85+ degrees in 10 days and 89 in the garage.

[randyr]

Randy,
Got my replacement - replacement hood sides today. A bit of surface rust but this time are correct 'as ordered'. Now I've got to go prime them if not too hot in my garage - from snow to 85+ degrees in 10 days and 89 in the garage.

Hey Dave,

Congrats on getting the right hood sides. Is 89 degrees too hot for the primer or just too hot for you? LOL...

I finally got to do some work on my car today. I fitted and welded the firewall extensions and the cowl vent filler piece. They turned out pretty good I think though I still have a few things to learn about welding. They used to have auto shop/welding classes at Santa Monica College around the corner from me but they closed their auto shop program a few years ago. I gotta find a class before I tackle something that's going to be really visible. A skim coat of good filler will take care of any of my imperfections so far though and I'm okay with that.

Tomorrow, I hope to prime and seal the floors and depending on how long it takes the sealer to cure, maybe get a coat of paint on them.

There's also a nice little car show in Culver City tomorrow (about 2 miles from me) that I'll have to drop by for a while. They'll have over 400 cars and most of them are really nice.....streetrods, hotrods, customs, etc. It's an annual event.

Here's a quick shot of my firewall extentions.....they look much better than the pic....the light reflects funny off the grinding I did......more later.

Randy

[Irelands child]

Hey Dave,

Congrats on getting the right hood sides. Is 89 degrees too hot for the primer or just too hot for you? LOL...
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Here's a quick shot of my firewall extentions.....they look much better than the pic....the light reflects funny off the grinding I did......more later.

Randy

Hi Randy,
Been busy, as usual but am slowly getting everything ready for some more base epoxy primer then polyester heavy fill primer, possibly today, but more likely tomorrow - some honey-dos need to be attended to before playing with my toys.

In this part of the country 89 degrees at this time of year along with high humidity and no breeze is beyond oppressive in my shop/garage.

If you are priming - are you using an epoxy? you are in a high humidity area as well and all the protection you can get is the way to go.

The firewall looks great - the welds seem fine by photo as long as you do't overgrind like I have a tendency to do so they end up cracking and then I need to redo them. Taking a picture that looks good of a weld after grinding can be a study in futility - the grind marks reflect light in strange directions.

I haven't been to a car show yet tho there usually are some small local ones by now but really haven't seen any advertised. Probably first that I'll be going to will most likely be the NSRA East Nationals at York, PA, 6/1-6/3. They have between 4 and 6000 cars, depending on the gas prices, we just reached $2.999/3.059 a gallon, and weather. I'm selling surplus treasures again at their swap meet, but this year is really only a good excuse to park inside with my truck as I am almost out of all I want to get rid of for now.

[randyr]

In this part of the country 89 degrees at this time of year along with high humidity and no breeze is beyond oppressive in my shop/garage.

If you are priming - are you using an epoxy? you are in a high humidity area as well and all the protection you can get is the way to go.

The firewall looks great - the welds seem fine by photo as long as you do't overgrind like I have a tendency to do so they end up cracking and then I need to redo them.
I haven't been to a car show yet tho there usually are some small local ones by now but really haven't seen any advertised. Probably first that I'll be going to will most likely be the NSRA East Nationals at York, PA, 6/1-6/3. They have between 4 and 6000 cars, depending on the gas prices, we just reached $2.999/3.059 a gallon, and weather.

Believe me, I know about heat & humidity....I'm originally from Oklahoma where the summers are often 100-110* plus the humidity! It's like Thailand with a drawl! LOL!

Thanks for the firewall comments. Hopefully, I didn't overgrind. I think I may have overwelded so there was plenty to grind...LOL! I see the articles in the car magazines where they weld a seam together, grind it down and it hardly needs any filler. Speaking of filler, I've ordered a quart of Evercoat Metal 2 Metal filler for these areas around the firewall & cowl. I read good reviews for it. What do you use? As for the primer, I wish I could use the epoxy, but unless it comes in a spray can, I can't really use it since I don't have a spray rig. I got a high quality self-etching primer from the autobody supply store that will have to do for now. Just figured I'd paint the underside with a high quality chassis paint. I've considered painting the inside floors with Rust Bullet or POR15 before covering them with Dynamat. Any thoughts on that?

I'll look for that "brushable" seam sealer today that you suggested. I had one tube of 3m's seam sealer that's applied with a caulking gun. I used it successfully in most places on the underside but the snout on the tube wasn't quite long enough to get the areas where the seam is right over the frame. I think I can get in there with a brush.

The Culver City car show didn't seem as impressive as last year. Perhaps it's because there weren't any cars like mine & I wanted to compare notes...lol
There were a few streetrods, though, lots of 60's-70's muscle cars, which are all the rage now, some low-riders, pro-streeters, kit cars, and rat rods. There was also an obnoxious amount of 50's music blasting thru tinney speakers hoisted up on stands all along the sidewalks! It was driving me nuts! LOL!

[Irelands child]

Believe me, I know about heat & humidity....I'm originally from Oklahoma where the summers are often 100-110* plus the humidity! It's like Thailand with a drawl! LOL!

Thanks for the firewall comments. Hopefully, I didn't overgrind. I think I may have overwelded so there was plenty to grind...LOL! I see the articles in the car magazines where they weld a seam together, grind it down and it hardly needs any filler. Speaking of filler, I've ordered a quart of Evercoat Metal 2 Metal filler for these areas around the firewall & cowl. I read good reviews for it. What do you use? As for the primer, I wish I could use the epoxy, but unless it comes in a spray can, I can't really use it since I don't have a spray rig. I got a high quality self-etching primer from the autobody supply store that will have to do for now. Just figured I'd paint the underside with a high quality chassis paint. I've considered painting the inside floors with Rust Bullet or POR15 before covering them with Dynamat. Any thoughts on that?

I'll look for that "brushable" seam sealer today that you suggested. I had one tube of 3m's seam sealer that's applied with a caulking gun. I used it successfully in most places on the underside but the snout on the tube wasn't quite long enough to get the areas where the seam is right over the frame. I think I can get in there with a brush.

The Culver City car show didn't seem as impressive as last year. Perhaps it's because there weren't any cars like mine & I wanted to compare notes...lol
There were a few streetrods, though, lots of 60's-70's muscle cars, which are all the rage now, some low-riders, pro-streeters, kit cars, and rat rods. There was also an obnoxious amount of 50's music blasting thru tinney speakers hoisted up on stands all along the sidewalks! It was driving me nuts! LOL!

Thankfully the temps have retreated for a while here - as a matter of fact it was below freezing a few miles North of me this morning, but only 39 here and going to about 72 or so today. Oklahoma - been there often - one of my turbine customers was Phillips Petroleum. A nice place, but really don't want to live there.

Most of the Evercoat products are pretty good. I'm using their Rage filler right now and eventually would like to try the Extreme.

Don't you have a small compressor? If so, then all you need is a cheapy spray gun from Harbor Freight to spray epoxy primer. My favorite is Southern Polyurethane but DuPont's Nason line is fine tho the Nason paint line leaves something to be desired. A note, self etching primer like DuPont's Variprime is NOT waterproof. It's a tie coat to their acryllic enamel paints like Centari and is considered old technology. Here care a couple of threads from another site:

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/my-t...ight=Variprime

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/fill...ight=Variprime

These and other similar were very educational for me as my technogy base was way dated. And you might even see my 'name' there as well!!

POR-15 and Rust Bullet have their place but really work best over some surface rust and do degrade unless top coated with their sealer. I had put some POR-15 on the rolled lip on the underside of my rear fenders and on the body reinforcing. Most of it simply peeled off when I sanded them for epoxy.

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/anot...ghlight=POR-15

Car shows are interesting - and an "open" show even more so as people park where they want - a '30's rod parked next to a '73 Mustang parked next to a sporty car. All you can do is wander and hope you see something that interests you. While I like a lot of the '50 - '70's music, eardrum shredding and tinny don't do it for me. Let the people enjoy talking without shouting. I have the same problem in Home Desperate and Lowes and even local department and grocery stores. Some of the modern music is dreadful, played too loud and many of the artistes seem to feel that shreiking the lyrics is better .

Later,