Thread: One way to build a '32 sedan

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Thanks, If you go to post 216 in this thread you can see the tensioner.
Ken

Cheers Ken i must of missed that one, Neat job.

Originally Posted by Ken Thurm

Thanks, If you go to post 216 in this thread you can see the tensioner.
Ken

Richard - I'm probably not explaining it clearly. The Schroeder steering boxes were the most used way back hen. Indy cars used them and sprint cars still use them I think. I just think they look cool. I have used them in the past but when you mount them in the correct height inside the car to get the correct geometry outside the car so you don't have any bump steer you can beat the snot out of your shins. Especially in a clutch car, it takes up a lot of room. So now that I'm "older" I want more comfort so I just came up with a way of getting the correct geometry to eliminate bump steer and give me more room for my legs. That's all this is.

Jack- I don't know what DTI is, sorry.

Steve- Thanks, I think It's going to work out good, I hope!!


I stopped on the steering for a while and went back to filling the roof. I bought a wood kit for it thinking that would give me the correct curvature of the roof. That didn't work so now I'm back to making brackets and forming the roof by hand. I will weld these in then slot some 1/2 tubing over them and create the curvature of the roof with the tubing, then weld it up, then start laying the new sheet metal on.
Ken

Ken,
I don't know if this is any help to you, but on my coupe and my son's sedan we used the roof panels from old 85 - 86 Toyota vans (the old stub-nosed vans) turned around backwards. They are smooth (no ribs) and the contour is perfect both side-to-side and front-to-rear. I have attached an early build pic of my son's sedan so you can see that the contour is a perfect match to a Model-A sedan; would probably work as well on a '32. Sure was a lot easier than trying to shape that big piece on my English Wheel...

Jim,
Thanks for the information. I may be using that if this doesn't come out the way I want it. I haven't done this before and I have it stuck in my head that I want to build it from scratch (my wife calls me, THE ROCK HEAD, I don't know what she means by that)
I may be looking for a Toyota roof soon, thanks again.
Ken

Neat little brackets Ken

Hi Ken,

Sorry for the confusion, a DTI is a dial test indicator. In post 272 the first two pics show a sprocket and shaft being supported by what looks like a dti under the shaft. Just a failed attempt at a little humor.

Jack.

i knew what you meant

Originally Posted by Jack F

Hi Ken,

Sorry for the confusion, a DTI is a dial test indicator. In post 272 the first two pics show a sprocket and shaft being supported by what looks like a dti under the shaft. Just a failed attempt at a little humor.

Jack.

Jack,
I'm the only slow one on here
Ken

Originally Posted by Ken Thurm

Jack,
I'm the only slow one on here
Ken

Nope - I was scratching my head but decided to wait for someone else to ask that question

Originally Posted by IC2

Nope - I was scratching my head but decided to wait for someone else to ask that question

Me too. I didn't want to show how slow I really am...

Well at least I'm in good company

Sorry guys,

There I go assuming again, but heck, I thought that anyone with the superior machining skills of Ken would surely know what a dti is. And no, I surely don't have superior machining skills, I am a late-comer to this machining stuff. If nothing else, some of you learned a new term. Steve, good onya buddy.

Jack.

I started out as an apprentice toolmaker so recognized it straightaway

Originally Posted by Jack F

Sorry guys,

There I go assuming again, but heck, I thought that anyone with the superior machining skills of Ken would surely know what a dti is. And no, I surely don't have superior machining skills, I am a late-comer to this machining stuff. If nothing else, some of you learned a new term. Steve, good onya buddy.

Jack.

[QUOTE=Ken Thurm;396204]Richard - I'm probably not explaining it clearly. The Schroeder steering boxes were the most used way back hen. Indy cars used them and sprint cars still use them I think. I just think they look cool. I have used them in the past but when you mount them in the correct height inside the car to get the correct geometry outside the car so you don't have any bump steer you can beat the snot out of your shins. Especially in a clutch car, it takes up a lot of room. So now that I'm "older" I want more comfort so I just came up with a way of getting the correct geometry to eliminate bump steer and give me more room for my legs. That's all this is.

Ken,
You explain everything in great detail; I’m just not as well versed as you. I have seen the arm (pitman arm) coming outside of the cowl section but just never thought too much about it. I did a little research and found an article from Street Rodder Magazine. I found one with the gear drive but not the chain. That must have been another type but the same principal I’m guessing. In the old racecars being real narrow I can see how it would give more legroom. They also said like you they are just cool like old is new again. At my age I’m still learning, I just found out more then I knew before you posted the pictures. In my day I did more buying/selling and trading cars then actually building, if something broke I tried to fix it just to keep it running. Looking back now, I wish I had spent more time taking cars apart and seeing how things work then just keeping them looking good.

Thanks for taking the time to get me to reading about the different types of steering. I will tell you I know what bump steer can do, it almost caused me to flip a 40 Chevy Coupe that had a citation rack and pinion steering mounted to a tube straight axle.

Thanks Ken, as usual you're a good guy for sharing your knowledge.

Richard


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