Thread: The Greatest Rod & Custom Cars!
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10-01-2007 08:02 AM #16
Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter
The '40 Ford would have been one of my picks, too, but I always include the '39 in the same breath, since visually they were very similar, especially with the '40 standard model.
I think we could all agree on a dozen or two dozen cars, that have become highly prized. I can see there are going to be many others that are individually prized due to personal involvment.
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10-01-2007 08:06 AM #17
Originally Posted by T42
Well, for what it's worth which is very little, IMO the "tin Indians" will always be one of the greatest sources for building a great Kustom or Kruizer!!! I wish I could find an old flop top Poncho nice as that someday!!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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10-01-2007 09:47 AM #18
Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT
As for the '39, particularly the Deluxe, I agree. In some ways it's a more elegant car. The side trim was relatively thin and smooth with just a hint of a peak to it. The balance of the trim vs. painted steel on the grille is just right. The head light trim rings were equally as beautiful. The trim tear drop tail lights have become ubiquitous in (and even outside) hot rod circles. Much to like there.
In part the desire to have the "latest and greatest" distorted the market to some extent. In the immediate post WWII years two of the iconic cars we've talked about here "suffered" changes that we probably look at in puzzlement today. It was very common then for rodders to put '40 front ends on '39 deluxes (the standards had a slightly different cowl which made this swap more difficult) presumably because they wanted to be seen as having a "newer" car. Likewise with the '33-4's. Years back it was common to swap '34 grilles and hoods to '33s for much the same reasons. An unintended consequence was that as appreciation for the thinner, "scooped" (and in my opinion more stylish) '33 grille grew in the '80s the "shortage" of nice '33 grilles caused a significant spike in prices, only stemmed in the past few years by high quality reproductions.Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
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10-01-2007 12:31 PM #19
[QUOTE=Bob Parmenter]On the bright side, not only are you not too old to learn................it means you're also no so old that you knew this trivial stuff!!!
I thought I would be well-educated, after 49 years of obsession, and reading about 6,000 car magazines (dating back to the late '40s) from cover to cover! I think the way you really learn many of the details, is to own, or build a car. Then you start finding out all of the small details, first hand. .....or you can read this thread. :-)
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10-01-2007 12:48 PM #20
1957 Chevy Passenger cars
Even though the '55-'57 Chevies were similar, the '57 was much more dramatically styled, putting it in a class of it's own. It was a stunning design, which seems to be proven by the fact that most modified cars retain most of the original lines, and most of the factory trim.
This was another of those cars that became very popular at it's original release, and never lost that popularity.
A couple of the strengths were release of the new 283 engine, the availability of a 4-speed or fuel injection, and simple parts interchangability with newer engines and other parts for many decades.Last edited by HOTRODPAINT; 10-01-2007 at 12:51 PM.
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10-01-2007 12:50 PM #21
...and a few more.
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10-01-2007 01:13 PM #22
(QUOTE)Well, when you say rod and custom I have to think of '49-51 Mercs, 49-50 Buick and Olds, any 40's thru 60's Caddy, pre-war (wwII) Lincoln's, 60's Chryslers, and a few others. Never could see where 30's car made a good "custom", far better as a "hot rod".(QUOTE) Dave Severson.
Dave, I have found that in recent years, especially in discussions here, that all of the terminology that we all understood over the decades, is now being redefined. No matter what terms we choose, somebody else has a different understanding of it. :-)
It sounds like we are the same generation...ie:
hot rod = '48 and older performance modified cars
custom = '49 and up that is restyled
street machine = '49 up modified for speed
muscle car = '64 up detroit built performance sedan
...and anything else didn't matter. :-)
Today there does not seem to be a short phrase to include all of the various building styles. Rod & custom kind of covers things done to personalize the appearance, and things done for performance, so I went with that.Last edited by HOTRODPAINT; 10-01-2007 at 01:19 PM.
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10-01-2007 01:28 PM #23
Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT
PatOf course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!
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10-01-2007 05:57 PM #24
Should only be two classes, show or go... Well, maybe 3, another for the one you tow with!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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10-01-2007 07:09 PM #25
Pat said....
BUt hey, their show, their rules. And it was a very nice show.
That was the last time I participated in an all Olds event with that club.Bob
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail....but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying..."Damn....that was fun!
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10-01-2007 07:33 PM #26
Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT
I got in an argument with a cop one night. Went through the curves west of town with the steering full lock right and the back end all hung out in excess of 100 mph......He called it reckless driving and I called it a controlled slide...Even explained to him that had I been reckless I would have been on my head in the ditch. Well, my definition of reckless was not the same as the established definition of reckless and I lost the argument!!!! Kustoms incorporate one or more of the following mods; chopped, sectioned, frenched, shaved, channeled, pinched, stretched, slammed, or rolled. Loud stereos, tinted windows, 20" wheels with rubber band tires, and a bolt on body kit just don't make it a kustom!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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10-01-2007 07:44 PM #27
Dave, I am inclined to agree, but with many older rodders headed for the nursing home, I think we are about to be outvoted! :-)
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10-01-2007 07:50 PM #28
Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT
Sorry, just another one of them personal rant things with me!!!!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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10-01-2007 08:21 PM #29
I think I am going to be surprised by this thread, since many differing view points are going to come out.
..then there are the unusual stories, like the '33-'34 Ford popularity. As far as I can tell, they were not real popular in the early days, since the trend was to strip the fenders and hood off to lighten the car. The '33-'34 looked awful this way! The firewall portruded, and looked cluttered, the grill hung out there with no shell around the radiator, and there was a funny inner fender piece showing.
In the '80s (30 years later) the "resto rod" came along, and people were building cars with all of the bodywork. At that time, the beauty of the factory design came out, and the popularity exploded! About that same time, the '37 Ford also found a new niche, and for the same reason.
Today I would give the '33-'34 an "icon" rating....but I would not have in the '50s-'60s &'70s. It was a late bloomer.
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10-01-2007 08:31 PM #30
Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINTYour Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
And a Happy Birthday Wish for Mr. Spears. Hope you can have a great one. :)
A little bird